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Scott interviews Matthew Hoh about his experience trying to steer the Obama administration’s Afghanistan policy away from the edge and his experience helping both himself and others confront PTSD. Hoh starts by recounting his Afghanistan experience. He and Scott then discuss the war more broadly. At the end, Hoh described his experience with PTSD, explained the scope of the problem facing veterans of the terror wars and offered up some resources for listeners who may be struggling themselves. 

Discussed on the show:

• Obama’s Wars by Bob Woodward
• The Best and the Brightest by David Halberstam
• A Bright Shining Lie: John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam by Neil Sheehan
• “Deserted: The U.S. Military’s Sexual Assault Crisis as a Cost of War” (Cost of War Project)
• r/VeteransBenefits

Matthew Hoh is associate director at the Eisenhower Media Network and formerly worked for the U.S. State Department. Hoh received the Ridenhour Prize Recipient for Truth Telling in 2010. Subscribe to his Substack and follow him on Twitter @MatthewPHoh 

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Gareth Porter joins Scott once again to discuss what he calls Mike Pompeo’s “Gulf of Tonkin incident.” In the real Gulf of Tonkin incident, McNamara intentionally misled President Johnson in order to incite war between the U.S. and North Vietnam. Porter says that Pompeo pulled a similar maneuver in deceiving President Trump about the extent to which Soleimani and the Iranians were behind the recent embassy attacks in Iraq in order to persuade him to carry out Soleimani’s assassination. For the time being, at least, it appears that Trump is satisfied to let the Iranians save face with their missile strike and is not interested in further escalation.

Discussed on the show:

• The CIA Insider’s Guide to the Iran Crisis: From CIA Coup to the Brink of War
• “Pompeo’s Gulf Of Tonkin Incident” (The American Conservative)
• Gulf of Tonkin Resolution
• Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers

Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist on the national security state, and author of Manufactured Crisis: The Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare. Follow him on Twitter @GarethPorter and listen to Gareth’s previous appearances on the Scott Horton Show.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Listen and Think Audio; TheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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Cliff Maloney of Young Americans for Liberty talks about the disaster of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, and how to bring more Americans around to the antiwar position. Luckily, he says, a great majority of people already oppose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan when asked, the trouble is that they don’t make it a priority—and neither, therefore, do most politicians. In an effort to change this, Maloney’s organization vets liberty-focused, antiwar candidates and helps them get elected in local races all around the country.

Discussed on the show:

• “Five lessons Afghanistan teaches us about Iran” (The Hill)
• “The Afghanistan Papers” (Washington Post)
• “Terrorism: Ron Paul vs. Giuliani @ SC Debate” (YouTube)
• “For Liberty: How the Ron Paul Revolution Watered the Withered Tree of Liberty (2009)” (IMDb)
• “Dan ‘McCain 2.0’ Crenshaw Says He NEVER Wants the Troops to Come Home From Afghanistan” (Big League Politics)
• “Report: US Drone Strike Kills 60 Afghan Civilians, Taliban Commander” (Antiwar.com Original)
• bringourtroopshome.us

Cliff Maloney is President of Young Americans for Liberty. Before serving as President of YAL he was the National Youth Director for the Rand Paul Presidential Campaign. Follow him on Twitter @LibertyCliff.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Listen and Think Audio; TheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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Scott talks to Robert Naiman about the efforts in congress and the senate to oppose the war in Yemen and stymie any escalation in a conflict with Iran. Naiman is optimistic that a concurrent resolution against the war in Yemen, which Trump cannot veto, will have enough support to make it through congress. Republicans and many in the media maintain that a concurrent resolution is merely symbolic, with no power to bind the president. But Naiman assures us that the War Powers Resolution of 1973 specifically cites a concurrent resolution as the means by which congress can end an unauthorized war. Those who deny this, he says, are living in their own fantasy.

Robert Naiman is Policy Director at Just Foreign Policy and president of the board of Truthout. He helped write The WikiLeaks Files: The World According to US Empire. Find him on Twitter @naiman.

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Francis Boyle explains why President Trump should be impeached—not for the charges of corruption and abuse of power in Ukraine, but for his war crimes in continuing the aggressive wars of the Bush and Obama administrations. Boyle thinks that Trump’s behavior with Ukraine probably constitutes an abuse of power, but mostly agrees that it’s just a continuation of the “Russiagate” witch hunt by the democrats. Clearly Trump’s real crime is allowing Saudi Arabia to perpetrate its war of genocide by starvation against Yemen, which is only possible with American equipment, intelligence, and consent. Scott and Boyle agree that Trump could end that war today simply by announcing that the U.S. will no longer support it. By not doing so, he is just as guilty as those waging the war.

Discussed on the show:

• “Why Not Impeach Trump for War Crimes?” (Accuracy.Org)

Francis Boyle is a human rights lawyer and a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is the author of Defending Civil Resistance Under International Law and Protesting Power: War, Resistance, And Law.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Washinton Babylon; Liberty Under Attack Publications; Listen and Think Audio; TheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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Scott talks to Matthew Hoh about the claim that General Soleimani and the Iranians were directly responsible for 600 American deaths in the war in Iraq, which supposedly would justify the general’s recent assassination by President Trump. Hoh explains that although it’s generally true that some Iranian money supported certain militant groups that the U.S. fought against in Iraq, we have little to no concrete evidence of the Iranian military ordering, planning, or supporting any attacks on American soldiers. In fact by the evidentiary standards of the anti-Iran hawks, there is far more evidence for the guilt of gulf states like Saudi Arabia supporting America’s enemies, and these countries are supposed to be our allies. Those really responsible for these 600 dead Americans—and for the tens of thousands who come home with physical and psychological wounds, the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, and the entire nations that have been destroyed in America’s war on terror—are our elected politicians and “selfless” public servants who advocate these policies and face little repercussion.

Discussed on the show:

• The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany

Matthew Hoh is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and formerly worked for the U.S. State Department. Hoh received the Ridenhour Prize Recipient for Truth Telling in 2010. Hoh is a member of the Board of Directors for Council for a Livable World and is an Advisory Board Member for Expose Facts. He writes on issues of war, peace and post-traumatic stress disorder recovery at matthewhoh.com.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Washinton Babylon; Liberty Under Attack Publications; Listen and Think Audio; TheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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Patrick Cockburn discusses the recent killing of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani at an airport in Baghdad. Cockburn is surprised by the boldness of the move, and thinks Iran will respond, though not necessarily in a dramatic or immediate way. More likely, he says, Iran will try to increase its influence in Iraq and force the U.S. out, which should be easier now that the killing of Soleimani—generally unpopular with Iraqis—has actually made him a martyr of American authoritarianism.

Discussed on the show:

• “Iraq’s worst fears have come true – they are now at the centre of a proxy war between the US and Iran” (Independent)

Patrick Cockburn is the Middle East correspondent for The Independent and the author of The Age of Jihad and Chaos & Caliphate.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Washinton Babylon; Liberty Under Attack Publications; Listen and Think Audio; TheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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Scott talks with Brett Murphy about his recent USA Today article exposing a disastrous U.S. military raid in 2008 that killed 60 Afghan children. The U.S. government tried to cover up the incident and paint it as a perfect success, so it was not until now that Murphy and others have been able to expose what really happened. Scott reminds us to imagine how we would feel if a foreign government occupied our country, accidentally killed our children, denied it, and then tried to “win hearts and minds.” Clearly, anyone would have just the opposite feelings toward their oppressors, and the example reminds us why wars like the one in Afghanistan are so hopeless.

Discussed on the show:

• “Inside the U.S. military’s raid against its own security guards that left dozens of Afghan children dead” (USA Today)
• “1/2/20 Peter Van Buren on the Americans Dying for the Government’s Lies” (The Libertarian Institute)

Brett Murphy is an investigative reporter for the USA Today Network in Florida. Follow him on Twitter @BrettMmurphy.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Washinton Babylon; Liberty Under Attack Publications; Listen and Think Audio; TheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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Mustafa Akyol talks about his latest New York Times op-ed, which describes a backlash among the people of the Muslim world to some of the political extremism that has recently become common in the Middle East. Scott and Akyol rehash the history of radical Islamist movements that have sprung up in response to the actions of the U.S., turning regimes like Libya, Iraq, and Egypt that were stable and secular—if not perfect by American standards—into murderous and chaotic theocracies. A decade or so later, a sort of “backlash to the backlash” is now emerging in the form of Muslim populaces who are sick and tired of heinous actions being taken in the name of their religion. This gives Akyol hope for the future of his country, Turkey, and for the rest of the region.

Discussed on the show:

• “A New Secularism Is Appearing in Islam” (The New York Times)

Mustafa Akyol is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. He is the author of The Islamic Jesusand Islam without Extremes: A Muslim Case for Liberty. Follow him on Twitter @AkyolinEnglish.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Washinton Babylon; Liberty Under Attack Publications; Listen and Think Audio; TheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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