Recent Episodes of the Scott Horton Show

10/23/20 Daniel Davis: Trump vs. Biden on Foreign Policy

Daniel Davis is back, this time for a discussion of Trump and Biden’s foreign policy positions in light of last night’s presidential debate. Overall Davis thinks it’s good that Trump hasn’t started any new wars—unlike all of his recent predecessors—but is disappointed...

10/16/20 Daniel Ellsberg on the Prosecution of Julian Assange

The great Daniel Ellsberg shares his thoughts on Julian Assange’s extradition hearing, comparing the situation to his own trial in the 1970s. Ellsberg, of course, was acquitted—in part because it was proven that the government spied on confidential conversations with...

10/15/20 Matt Agorist on Breonna Taylor and American Police Abuse

Scott talks to Matt Agorist about some recent cases of unlawful police killings and police abuse in this country, both the high-profile incidents and the ones that escape mainstream notice. Agorist reminds us of the details of the Breonna Taylor case, in which police...

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Recent Episodes of the Scott Horton Show

10/30/20 Giorgio Cafiero on the Normalization of Israel-Sudan Relations

Scott talks to Giorgio Cafiero about the latest push for Sudan to join the group of countries officially normalizing ties with Israel. Cafiero thinks these official normalization deals are somewhat significant, but reminds us that none of the countries to sign such deals have actually been at war with Israel, and so the deals do not accomplish nearly as much as the Trump administration claims that they do. In Sudan in particular, Cafiero fears that a new deal with Isreal could jeopardize an uneasy peace only recently established after huge protests in 2018 and 2019 resulted in the overthrow of Sudan’s decades-long dictatorship. Cafiero says these deals are mostly a ploy to improve Trump’s image ahead of the 2020 presidential election.

Discussed on the show:

Giorgio Cafiero is the CEO and founder of Gulf State Analytics, a geopolitical risk consultancy based in Washington, DC. He writes regularly for the Middle East Institute, The National Interest, and LobeLog. Find him on Twitter @GiorgioCafiero.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottPhoto IQGreen Mill Supercritical; and Listen and Think Audio.

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10/23/20 Danny Sjursen on Nagorno-Karabakh and America’s Failed Afghanistan Strategy

Scott talks to Danny Sjursen about the latest in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, where Sjursen says about 5,000 people have likely been killed. The media narrative about this situation, explains Sjursen, has always been that Russia is providing material support to Armenia, and encourages the fighting for their own geopolitical purposes. In reality though, Russia supports both sides to some extent, and really only has an interest in peace, since these countries are so close to Russia’s own borders. Most of the existing peace talks during this decades-long conflict, in fact, have been brokered by the Russian government. Scott also asks about Sjursen’s time in Afghanistan, and the ineffective strategy the U.S. has tried to employ against the Taliban throughout the war, despite failure after failure.

Discussed on the show:

Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. army major and former history instructor at West Point. He is the author of Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge and Patriotic Dissent: America in the Age of Endless War. Follow him on Twitter @SkepticalVet.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottPhoto IQGreen Mill Supercritical; and Listen and Think Audio.

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10/23/20 Daniel Davis: Trump vs. Biden on Foreign Policy

Daniel Davis is back, this time for a discussion of Trump and Biden’s foreign policy positions in light of last night’s presidential debate. Overall Davis thinks it’s good that Trump hasn’t started any new wars—unlike all of his recent predecessors—but is disappointed by the extent to which he has been unable to put his antiwar campaign promises into practice. Davis think Trump made good strides toward peace with North Korea, something that Biden predictably attacked him for during the debate. This is one signal that Biden, along with the rest of the establishment, would seek a return to “normalcy” should he win the presidency—meaning a return to the disastrous and hawkish foreign policy consensus that has been getting America into so much trouble for decades.

Discussed on the show:

Daniel Davis did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan during his time in the army. He writes a weekly column for National Interest and is the author of the reports “Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leaders’ Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort” and “Go Big or Go Deep: An Analysis of Strategy Options on Afghanistan.” Find him on Twitter @DanielLDavis1.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottPhoto IQGreen Mill Supercritical; and Listen and Think Audio.

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10/16/20 Daniel Ellsberg on the Prosecution of Julian Assange

The great Daniel Ellsberg shares his thoughts on Julian Assange’s extradition hearing, comparing the situation to his own trial in the 1970s. Ellsberg, of course, was acquitted—in part because it was proven that the government spied on confidential conversations with Ellsberg’s psychiatrist. The CIA and its allies have been shown to have done the same thing in Assange’s case, surveilling both his doctors and his lawyers. On these grounds alone, Ellsberg believes the case should be thrown out. But Ellsberg also reminds us that in the analogy between the two cases, Assange is actually more akin to the New York Times, to whom Ellsberg eventually leaked the Pentagon Papers. Back then no one would have even considered going after the Times; this time around, the precedent is clear: going after Assange opens the door to prosecuting just about any news outlet in America.

Discussed on the show:

  • “The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers (2009)” (IMDb)
  • “My Statement on the Prosecution of Julian Assange” (The Libertarian Institute)
  • “The Afghanistan Papers” (Washington Post)
  • Rage
  • “State Department Cables” (WikiLeaks)
  • “Baghdad War Diary” (WikiLeaks)
  • “Kabul War Diary” (WikiLeaks)
  • “Official Secrets (2019)” (IMDb)
  • “UN expert says “collective persecution” of Julian Assange must end now” (OHCHR)
  • “The Silence of the Lambs (1991)” (IMDb)
  • “Daniel Ellsberg Secrets Chapter 1 The Tonkin Gulf: August 1964” (The Scott Horton Show)

Daniel Ellsberg is a former Marine Corps company commander and nuclear expert for the Rand Corporation. He is the leaker behind the Pentagon Papers, which revealed the truth behind the Vietnam War. He is the author of Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers and The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/16/20 Dave DeCamp on Hunter Biden, Trump’s Tweets and America’s Endless Wars

Scott talks to Dave DeCamp about a handful of his recent antiwar.com stories, with a focus on President Trump’s efforts to bring troops home from overseas wars. Trump has issued a series of tweets calling for troop reductions, particularly in Afghanistan and Somalia, but DeCamp says that this is mostly just PR—after all, Trump is Commander in Chief, and could bring the troops home if he wanted to. Scott and DeCamp also discuss the Hunter Biden email story and Twitter’s censorship of the New York Post.

Discussed on the show:

Dave DeCamp is the assistant news editor of Antiwar.com. Follow him on Twitter @decampdave.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/16/20 Eric Margolis on Trump’s Supposed Middle East ‘Peace’ Deals

Eric Margolis discusses President Trump’s recent peace deals between Israel and some of the Arab states. First Margolis explains that these aren’t really peace deals; what they do is simply make public the normalization of relations between countries that were already tacitly at peace. More importantly, they help further isolate the Palestinians from their supposed allies, which will most likely make it much easier for Israel to continue annexation in the future. Finally, these deals strengthen relationships between U.S. arms manufacturers and foreign government buyers, something that Trump thinks is great for the American economy, but which in reality only enriches a select group at the expense of the rest of us.

Discussed on the show:

Eric Margolis is a foreign affairs correspondent and author of War at the Top of the World and American Raj. Follow him on Twitter @EricMargolis and visit his website, ericmargolis.com.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/16/20 Aaron Maté: OPCW Malfeasance and More ‘Russiagate’ Updates

Scott interviews Aaron Maté about his testimony to the UN Security Council regarding the alleged chemical weapons attack in Douma, Syria in 2018. After the Trump administration authorized retaliatory bombing in response to the incident, the OPCW sent investigators to follow up on the claims of chemical weapons use. After a year, they released a report justifying the U.S. response. The trouble, as Maté explains, is that OPCW inspectors then started coming forward claiming that their findings had been altered or suppressed in order to paint a more favorable picture for the U.S. and its allies. In reality, these investigators say, the attack was staged to look like a chemical attack in order to incite American intervention. Maté is working to make sure the truth comes out. He also comments on recent revelations in the “Russiagate” story.

Discussed on the show:

Aaron Maté is a former host and producer at The Real News and writes regularly at The Nation. Follow him on Twitter @AaronJMate.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/16/20 Andrew Cockburn on the Dangerous and Unconstitutional Powers of Modern Presidents

Scott interviews Andrew Cockburn about the steady growth of unconstitutional powers that the federal government—and the president in particular—can summon during “emergencies.” Some of these powers are well-known, like extraordinary law enforcement and surveillance techniques that have been justified by the war on terror and the war on drugs. Others are more secretive, and the American public has basically no way of finding out about such powers until the government decides to use them. Cockburn points out the ways that unprecedented powers have already been summoned during the covid pandemic, and fears the situation could get even worse if there is a disputed election.

Discussed on the show:

Andrew Cockburn is the Washington editor of Harper’s Magazine and the author of Kill Chain: The Rise of the High-Tech AssassinsFollow him on Twitter @andrewmcockburn.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/15/20 Matt Agorist on Breonna Taylor and American Police Abuse

Scott talks to Matt Agorist about some recent cases of unlawful police killings and police abuse in this country, both the high-profile incidents and the ones that escape mainstream notice. Agorist reminds us of the details of the Breonna Taylor case, in which police officers who were actually looking for Taylor’s ex-boyfriend fatally shot her in the middle of the night while executing a no-knock warrant. The ex-boyfriend, it turns out, had already been arrested by that point. One officer has been charged for recklessly shooting into neighboring apartments, but the rest of the officers have thus far escaped any consequences. Sadly, this is just one case among many, most of which never receive the kind of attention that Breonna Taylor’s case has. Agorist discusses many other such incidents, along with some of the obstacles to reform.

Discussed on the show:

  • “WATCH: ‘We Don’t Have a Crime’, Cops Stop Man Without Probable Cause, Hog Tie, Kneel On Him Until He Dies” (The Free Thought Project)
  • “City Sends Mental Health Experts to 911 Calls Instead of Cops and It’s Worked 100% of the Time” (The Free Thought Project)
  • “‘Please Don’t Let Me Die’: Woman Hog-Tied, Tortured by Sadistic Cop for Over 20 Minutes” (The Free Thought Project)
  • “Cop Sexually Assaults Child During Traffic Stop, Gets Only 14 Days in Jail, Won’t Register as Sex Offender” (The Free Thought Project)
  • “Cop Admits to Sexual Abusing 2 Young Girls, Instead of 30 Years, He Got Just 60 Days in Jail” (The Free Thought Project)

Matt Agorist is an independent journalist and Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project. He is also a former marine and NSA intelligence operator. Follow him on Twitter @MattAgorist.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/9/20 Daniel Davis on the Failures of American Foreign Policy Since the Gulf War

Scott interviews Daniel Davis about his new book, Eleventh Hour in 2020 America, which explores the unhealthy expansion of the U.S. military over the last few decades, to the point that America’s very future as a democratic republic is at risk. Davis begins the interview by detailing how America built up its military into the world’s most efficient and advanced fighting force, epitomized by his experiences in the first Iraq War—a war that Davis calls a “success” by the military’s standards. But the cost of an easy, quick and overwhelming victory, he says, was that America became imprudent, believing that it could act as the world’s police without any repercussion. The wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria, of course, have proven that that was untrue. Not to mention, adds Davis, that the constitution gives the government no right to engage in this kind of foreign adventurism. Davis also reminds us that the world doesn’t really need a police force: for the most part, every country only wants to ensure that its own borders are secure from external threats, and is otherwise happy to get along peacefully with everyone else. A true defense force and a passive nuclear deterrent, he says, would be more than enough to ensure this.

Discussed on the show:

Daniel Davis did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan during his time in the army. He writes a weekly column for National Interest and is the author of the reports “Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leaders’ Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort” and “Go Big or Go Deep: An Analysis of Strategy Options on Afghanistan.” Find him on Twitter @DanielLDavis1.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/9/20 Charles Glass on the Illegal Campaign to Eliminate Julian Assange

Scott interviews Charles Glass about Julian Assange’s extradition hearing. Glass has focused on Assange’s treatment at the hands of the U.S. and British governments and their allies, including his subjection to solitary confinement, the denial of medical treatment going back to Assange’s time in the Ecuadorian embassy and the illegal monitoring of communications with both his lawyers and his doctors. On these grounds alone, says Glass, Assange’s prosecution should be thrown out. But more importantly, Glass reminds us how heroic Assange’s work has been, as it has enabled literally thousands of news stories that exposed crimes by governments around the world. Instead of contributing to his demonization, mainstream news outlets should be flocking to Assange’s side.

Discussed on the show:

Charles Glass was Chief Middle East Correspondent for ABC News from 1983 to 1993. He is a regular contributor to TIME magazine, the Guardian, Rolling Stone, the Intercept, and many others. His most recent book is called They Fought Alone: The True Story of the Starr Brothers, British Secret Agents in Nazi-Occupied France.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/9/20 Ray McGovern on the Tireless Truthers Still Pushing ‘Russiagate’

Ray McGovern discusses the lasting impact of the “Russiagate” conspiracy, which Democrats have continued to push throughout President Trump’s entire first term. McGovern reminds us that according to recorded testimony released only this year, CrowdStrike (the technology tasked with investigating the DNC email leak) admitted all the way back in 2017 that they had no evidence for the allegation that Russian agents had perpetrated any sort of hack. That means that a narrative that has continued to dominate the mainstream media and Democratic political discourse for three years was known to have absolutely no basis in fact. McGovern fears that the very same tactics used to rein in Trump could be turned around and used on Biden, were he to defeat Trump later this year. Although McGovern strongly opposes the Trump presidency, he regrets the fact that a Biden victory would most likely mean that this whole scandal gets swept under the rug.

Discussed on the show:

Ray McGovern is the co-creator of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and the former chief of the CIA’s Soviet analysts division. Read all of his work at his website: raymcgovern.com.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/9/20 William Smith: How Empire is Destroying the American Republic

Scott talks to William Smith about the threat to republican government posed by America’s growing world empire. The founders of this country, Smith explains, knew that perpetual war would lead to the uncontrolled growth of government power, and that meddling in foreign affairs would lead to decline and ruin at home. More recently, Eisenhower warned about the same things in his celebrated military-industrial complex speech. In a recent piece, Smith warns about the use in the 2020 presidential campaign of an artificial intelligence tool originally developed for counter-insurgency tactics in Afghanistan. Smith hopes that Americans will demand a return to the principles of restraint codified by our founding documents before it’s too late to reverse the damage that’s already been done.

Discussed on the show:

William Smith is a senior research fellow and Managing Director at Catholic University’s Center for the Study of Statesmanship. He received his PhD from Catholic University and has 25 years of experience in government and the corporate sector.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/9/20 Harry Kazianis on Peace with North Korea

Scott talks to Harry Kazianis about America’s relationship with North Korea. Kazianis argues past much of the noise surrounding the effort to get North Korea to denuclearize, proposing instead that America actually could tolerate a nuclear-armed North Korea, just like we do most of the other countries that have them. Kazianis reminds us that nuclear weapons for North Korea are primarily about survival for the Kim family; the U.S. simply does not go to war with nuclear-armed countries. Accepting this fact, he says we should just do everything we can to make peace with the North Koreans and not give into all the neoconservative blustering about the need to rid the world of oppressive dictators.

Discussed on the show:

Harry Kazianis is director of defense studies at the Center for the National Interest and executive editor The National Interest. He previously served as editor of The Diplomat, a fellow at CSIS, and on the 2016 Ted Cruz foreign policy team. Follow him on Twitter @GrecianFormula.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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10/9/20 Matt Welch: The Case Against Donald Trump

Reason Magazine’s Matt Welch follows up on Scott’s Jacob Sullum interview with his own case against Donald Trump. The clearest point to hit Trump on, says Welch, is probably his complete abandonment of curtailing government spending, as he has presided over the biggest budgets in American history. Welch also notes that despite Trump’s foreign policy rhetoric—which, he admits, has done a good job moving Republican voters toward the anti-war position—he has done fairly little to actually bring troops home and end America’s endless wars. Finally, Trump’s trade policies have accomplished little other than make goods more expensive for Americans and embolden protectionist policies in other parts of the world.

Discussed on the show:

Matt Welch is editor at large at Reason Magazine. He is the author of The Declaration of Independents: How Libertarian Politics Can Fix What’s Wrong with America and McCain: The Myth of a MaverickFollow him on Twitter @MattWelch.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: NoDev NoOps NoIT, by Hussein Badakhchani; The War State, by Mike Swanson; WallStreetWindow.com; Tom Woods’ Liberty ClassroomExpandDesigns.com/ScottListen and Think AudioTheBumperSticker.com; and LibertyStickers.com.

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