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“On Russia-Ukraine, the misdiagnosed patient is flatlining” (Responsible Statecraft)
“Pentagon Tells Congress It Doesn’t Know Who It’s Killing in Latin American Boat Strikes” (Antiwar.com)

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11/19/21 Peter Van Buren on Why China’s Not Invading Taiwan and How Absurd the Russiagate Story Was From the Beginning

On Antiwar Radio this past Sunday, Scott interviewed Peter Van Buren about two articles he wrote on Taiwan. Van Buren laid out the reasons he believes a Chinese invasion of Taiwan is unlikely. Scott’s slot of airtime only runs 30 minutes. But they ended up talking for an additional hour about the absurdity of Russiagate. The entire interview is presented here in full.

Discussed on the show:

“Taiwan Is Not About China” (The American Conservative)
“Taiwan Means War Only If We Want It To” (The American Conservative)
“Durham Indicts Danchenko” (The American Conservative)
Fear by Bob Woodward
The Manchurian Candidate IMDb
“The US makes the rules, and Syria massacre was no exception” (Responsible Statecraft)

Peter Van Buren worked for 24 years at the Department of State including a year in Iraq. He is the author of We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People and the novel Hooper’s War. He is now a contributing editor at The American Conservative magazine.

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11/19/21 Samantha Melamed on the Epidemic of Coerced Confessions in the Philadelphia Police Department

Scott is joined by Samantha Melamed of the Philadelphia Inquirer to talk about a series of articles she wrote called The Homicide Files. Since 2018, a total of 22 people convicted of murder have been exonerated. Melamed tells a couple of these stories and ties them into the broader historical context of the decades of gross misconduct in the Philadelphia Police Department.

Discussed on the show:

“The Homicide Files” (The Philadelphia Inquirer)

Samantha Melamed has been a reporter at the Philadelphia Inquirer since 2013. She covers issues of identity, race, social justice, as well as prisons and the legal system. Follow her on Twitter @samanthamelamed

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11/19/21 Russell Wray on the Antiwar Movement, Protesting and the Military’s Impact on the Environment

Scott interviews activist Russel Wray from Ellsworth Maine. Wray has been protesting the wars every Sunday since 2002. He discusses his journey to the antiwar movement and how it’s changed since he began his weekly protests. Wray is also a member of a group that’s trying to fight back against the Navy’s sonar practices, which he says are unnecessarily dangerous to marine life.

Discussed on the show:

Earth’s Greatest Enemy Documentary

Russel Wray is an anti-war activist from Ellsworth Maine and a member of Citizens Opposing Active Sonar Threats, an advocacy group working to bring attention to the U.S. Navy’s unnecessary killing of marine life.

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11/15/21 Lyle J. Goldstein on How the US Would Lose the Battle for Taiwan

Scott interviews Lyle J. Goldstein, who now works at Defense Priorities. Goldstein challenges the idea that a war with China over Taiwan would be fundamentally different from the war in Afghanistan. In fact, he thinks the U.S. had a better chance of victory in Afghanistan. He explains how China could render all U.S. carrier groups useless and force the Americans to rely completely on their submarines. But neither would that be a path to victory because of China’s anti-submarine capabilities. Goldstein also points out that it’s by trying to destroy these Chinese ship-killing missile launch sites that the stage is set for dangerous escalation.

Discussed on the show:

“Like Afghanistan, a War for Taiwan is Unwinnable” (National Interest)
“The Scary War Game Over Taiwan That the U.S. Loses Again and Again” (Real Clear Investigations)
“The War Nerd: This is how the Carriers Will DIe” (The Exiled)

Lyle J. Goldstein is the Director of Asia Engagement at Defense Priorities. He is the author of Meeting China Halfway: How to Defuse the Emerging US-China Rivalry. Follow his work at The National Interest.

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11/12/21 Joe Lauria Explains Julian Assange’s Situation

Scott is joined by Joe Lauria of Consortium News. Lauria gives us a detailed account of Assange’s eventful past year. A British judge, who despite agreeing that Assange had violated the Espionage Act by publishing secrets handed to him, refused to extradite him to the U.S. out of concern for his safety. Lauria explains all of this and puts these events in a broader context.

Discussed on the show:

“What’s next for Julian Assange?” (NewAge)

Joe Lauria is the editor-in-chief at Consortium News. He is a former UN correspondent and wrote at the Boston Globe and Wall Street Journal. You can follow him on Twitter @unjoe.

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11/12/21 Aaron Maté on the Further Collapse of Russiagate

Aaron Maté is back to give an update on Russiagate as the years-long conspiracy theory continues to fall completely apart. Maté fills us in on the indictment of Igor Danchenko, who was a major source for the Steele Dossier. Danchenko’s claims were just about all fiction. However, he made the mistake of lying to the FBI about some of the more embarrassing ways information made its way into the dossier. Scott and Maté talk about the details of what happened and observe how the conspiracy theorists in the corporate media are handling the news.

Discussed on the show:

“Russiagate has no rock bottom” (Maté’s Substack)
Fear by Bob Woodward
Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes

Aaron Maté is an NYC-based journalist and producer. He hosts the news show Pushback for The Grayzone, and writes regularly for The Nation. Subscribe to his Substack and follow him on Twitter @AaronJMate.

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11/12/21 Kelly Beaucar Vlahos on the Quincy Institute, Zalmay Khalilzad and Mark Perry

Scott interviews Kelly Beaucar Vlahos from Responsible Statecraft. For listeners unfamiliar with it, Vlahos gives an introduction to her place of work and the think tank behind it, the Quincy Institute. Next they discuss Zalmay Khalilzad who spoke at an event affiliated with the Quincy Institute. Scott and Vlahos discuss Khalilzad’s role in U.S. foreign policy. Finally Vlahos talks a bit about Mark Perry, her friend and coworker who passed away in August.

Discussed on the show:

“Zalmay Khalilzad, unrestrained at restrainer confab” (Responsible Statecraft)
The Pentagon’s Wars by Mark Perry

Kelley Beaucar Vlahos is Editorial Director of Responsible Statecraft and Senior Advisor at the Quincy Institute. Follow her on Twitter @KelleyBVlahos.

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11/12/21 Hassan El-Tayyab on the Many Ways Congress Can End the War in Yemen

This last Sunday, Hassan El-Tayyab of the Friends Committee On National Legislation joined Antiwar Radio to talk with Scott about Yemen. El-Tayyab explains the numerous ways Congress could end the War in Yemen. He also points out that there are a solid number of Senators and Representatives who have demonstrated some degree of disapproval for our involvement in the war. Both Scott and El-Tayyab agree that real results could be close, and urge listeners to get involved and help push this antiwar effort over the finish line.

Discussed on the show:

“Iran’s Small Hand in Yemen” (Carnegie Endowment for International Peace)
“US maintains intelligence relationship with Houthis” (Al-Monitor)
Yemen Relief and Reconstruction Foundation
Quincy Institute

Hassan El-Tayyab is a musician and peace activist, who works as the lead lobbyist on Middle East policy for the Friends Committee on National Legislation.

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