09/16/16 – Yakov Hirsch – The Scott Horton Show

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Introducing Yakov Hersh.
He is a professional poker player and dog trainer.
And he is now a regular over there at Philip Weiss's great blog, great website, Mondo Weiss.
He's written a bunch of great ones of his own and a couple co-authored with Phil that I'd like to talk about.
And so, very happy to welcome Yakov to the show.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
Is it okay if I'm stoned, or are you going to...
I'm...
Great.
Okay, let's do it.
Good.
Go right ahead.
I'll tell you what.
I like the way you write, because it's full of ridicule for all the same people I hate too.
And it's really funny.
And it's right on point.
So, I really want people to check out your work here at mondoweiss.net.
So, before I let you make fun of Jeffrey Goldberg, we got to cover what you're making fun of Jeffrey Goldberg about, in part.
And that is this, the so-called No Jews video, released by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
And you've got this great piece co-authored with Phil here.
Netanyahu's ghost on the ethnic cleansing video is right-wing pollster Luntz.
And this is a very important story and kind of a funny one too.
So, please tell it to the people about, first of all, what's this video?
And then explain about Luntz.
I think the best thing I should do to tell the people is what's going on in Israel.
Right?
And how it relates to what's happening here.
And we'll get to Jeffrey Goldberg in a second.
But I'll tell you my story.
My story is, I'm a poker player.
And I realized that things were happening in Israel that no one was talking about here.
And the most important event for everyone to know is that in March, I think it was March 24th, this Israeli soldier executed a wounded Palestinian and was caught on video camera in Hebron, which is the epicenter of, I mean, you could say apartheid if you're on that side of the issue, but maybe I shouldn't talk about Hebron.
But anyhow, so what happened was, this is caught on video.
And this has happened many times before.
But when you don't see it, it's just not a story.
So it's caught on video.
And now the government reacts.
So the big story is that a few days after this, this is caught on video, the government on Sunday, in Israel on Sunday, they have a cabinet meeting.
And everyone in the government defends the executioner.
And it's like, we're going to make sure he gets a good defense.
Netanyahu said, oh, we have to look at the overall context of events, which is an interesting thing.
What does that mean?
And everyone is going out of their way to defend this guy.
And you would think that they would be doing the usual Hasbara or propaganda, sort of explaining whatever, whatever.
But they didn't do that.
And that was a very big deal because they sort of said, it is OK.
We have a militia.
We don't have an army.
We have a tribal militia.
If you want, if you if you want to shoot a prone Palestinian, whatever he is, who's no threat to anyone, you are allowed to do it.
Now, that seems to be big news.
And it's really in the case.
Really, it's just the generals who are the voice for the rule of law here.
He's their soldier.
And they're saying, no, we're going to prosecute him because we have to have order within our armed forces.
OK, so what how did this happen?
What happened is, is that for a long time now, Israel under Netanyahu, their foreign policy is just bullshit.
It's just propaganda.
So it's like, imagine it's a it's like a debating club.
That's the foreign policy.
And they have these people like Jeffrey Goldberg on about making a lot of noise, exhausting everyone.
And that's what happens.
And the story gets through.
And now this is the story now.
So this is happening in Israel.
And why I'm picking on Jeffrey Goldberg, because since that event, this is what happened.
OK, so everyone's defending the government's defending this, this executioner, Elora Zaria.
The generals realize that they have to do something.
So they want to make an example of this guy.
They arrest him and they put him on trial to say, we have to you know, we have to we have to have law.
You know, we have an army.
You have a Western army.
So they want to punish this guy and make a statement.
You can't shoot Palestinians, whatever Netanyahu is telling you about Palestinians.
So so what happened was on an important Holocaust memorial speech, this general was the deputy chief of staff.
There's the defense minister.
There's the there's the chief of staff and the deputy chief of staff, like close to the top.
And he gave a speech on the Holocaust day, saying that things that are going on in Israel now are reminiscent of what went on in the 1930s in Germany.
And he mentioned specifically about the use of arms and a very important speech, that speech.
Netanyahu reacted that speech by going nuts like you can't be saying stuff like this.
Now, then Defense Minister Yalon defended the right of this general to say what he feels need to be needs to be said about Israeli society.
OK, which, of course, is the opposite of what Netanyahu's message is, which is that, you know, it's Nazi Germany all over again every day of the week, no matter who the enemies are.
Right.
So and he's saying, no, no, no.
And I wrote this article.
The difference between the meaning of the how the difference between the meaning of the Holocaust between Netanyahu and Golan, because Netanyahu thinks the he's he takes from the Holocaust is that everyone wants to kill the Jews, whereas Golan takes the more universal meaning of the universalist meaning of the Holocaust, which is based, you know, which is that given certain circumstances, anyone could do stuff like this.
And you're not you have to be careful.
And this guy Golan is saying in Israeli society now.
And why is that?
It's because Netanyahu is doing what he's doing, you know, which we'll get into.
We have a situation that is reminiscent of, you know, of the way Germans looked at Jews, the way Israelis are looking at Palestinians right now is reminiscent of the way Germans looked at Jews.
Now, obviously, that's a not uncontroversial thing to say in Israel.
Anyway, Golan lost his job.
He replaced.
So Netanyahu, this this is what happened.
Golan defended the right of this general to give that speech.
Netanyahu canned Golan or he quit.
And he as soon as he quit, he then basically repeated Golan's speech, you know, about what's happening in Israel, about fascism.
Netanyahu replaced him with the Matt Lieberman, who he was, you know, he was in that position during the trial with the trial still going on.
But he visited the murdering medic, as I like to call him, in court to show his support.
And now he is the defense minister.
In other words, he's now in charge of the people are trying to keep basically Israel a Western country.
And he has already said, you know, we're going to defend this guy no matter what.
You know, the you know, the the whatever the result of the trial is, it doesn't matter even if he's found guilty.
We're going to we're with him.
Now, this story no one knows about.
Why doesn't anyone know about?
Because people like Jeffrey Goldberg always what what are they saying about Israel?
They're only giving you the good news.
They're not.
Jeffrey Goldberg is not a journalist, right?
He's an activist.
And how do you know he's an activist?
Because all these things that I'm telling you, this happened in March.
And Jeffrey Goldberg, the most biggest expert, used to torment Andrew Sullivan because Andrew Sullivan said that's exactly what's going on now is what Andrew Sullivan said in his blog.
But at that point, Jeffrey Goldberg, you know, throwing around this anti-Semitism card, you know, tormented Jeffrey, tormented Andrew Sullivan.
Well, guess what?
Andrew Sullivan is right.
And Jeffrey Goldberg can't say a word about what's going on in Israel because there is no spin.
So that's what's going on.
So right now.
And also, hold on.
Now, let's get to today.
So now.
So meanwhile, Netanyahu, since his his foreign policy, his domestic policy is just propaganda against, you know, the Palestinians is just saying whatever he wants.
And of course, there is net with Netanyahu for a whole bunch of reasons.
He is a man who gets away with everything.
There's no one in the world that could do what he does and not have consequences and they're not the only consequences.
So he just basically does what he wants.
And what happened in The Washington Post is, which is what I wrote in June, is that these people, the people, the serious people in Israel, like Barak and Yalom, the guy who was fired, they know Netanyahu got to go.
OK, because this is a little, you know, it's like I write.
He was a furniture salesman, Netanyahu.
And now he's prime minister of Israel because basically Israel has recruited Jews for just I mean, let me be very specific.
They haven't recruited.
OK, so let me put it this way.
For whatever reason, people feel they have to defend Israel.
Right.
And that has led to them, them defending Israel in the best way they know how.
And that is to throw around this anti-Semitism stuff.
And the result is that right now you have Israeli society thinking that the people they are occupied are motivated by, are motivated by Jew hatred.
And that's Netanyahu's game.
And that's why he did this thing.
He tried to say that the mufti of Jerusalem in the 30s convinced, whispered into Hitler's ear to burn the Jews.
Now, Netanyahu said that.
He knows that's not true, but that's his thing.
He just wants, he wants, he doesn't need the Germans committing the Holocaust now.
It's the Palestinians who committed the Holocaust.
And as long as he keeps that up, he's going to be prime minister of Israel for life.
And people realize this.
And that's why Barak, after this deal, this, this, this, this big, whatever you want to call it, that America does for Israel, a big celebration, Barak says, no, we're not giving Netanyahu anything.
Netanyahu is the devil.
We have to get this guy out.
You know, no matter what, they have to remove Netanyahu.
This is what they feel because they know what I'm telling you.
They know Netanyahu has poisoned Israeli society, right, for his personal needs.
And that's what the whole Iran debate was.
All security people in Israel saying, okay, at first they didn't realize what he was up to, right?
And then they realized it's just his whole personal fight with Obama that this is all about.
Even after he knew he couldn't win, he couldn't win the debate.
He kept on going.
He went to Jews.
This man is so worried about anti-Semitism.
He goes to American Jews and he says, yo, this, you know, you didn't, you didn't save the Jews during the Holocaust.
And now Iran's about to, whatever he said about the nuke America, about to kill all the Jews.
And what are you doing?
You're not doing anything.
And it's all bullshit.
And as I'm right, the head, the ex head of Mossad, when Ephraim Halefi was on Al Jazeera, went to Al Jazeera to say this, you know, he said that Iran couldn't threaten Israel's existence in the next thousand years.
That's the reality, right?
And everyone knows the reality.
But what happened when James Fallows tried to speak about this reality and say, yo, we can't trust this guy, Netanyahu.
He's, you know, what happens when someone does that in America?
We'll say hello to Mr. Kerchik.
And what does Mr. Kerchik write about, about James Fallows is just trying to be a good American and be a responsible journalist and say what he sees.
Well, this is what James Kerchik says.
So first he has to go and ask all his friends, do we have any anti-Semitism on Fallows?
Well, there isn't anything on Fallows.
What to do when you can't call Fallows an anti-Semite?
And he's saying, you know, what Netanyahu is up to.
Well, let me tell you what Jewish culture has become.
This is, I am about to tell you the end of Jewish culture.
This is the end of Jewish culture.
This is what Fallows wrote when, I'm sorry, this is what Kerchik wrote when Fallows tried to be, and as you will find out now, Fallows was right about everything.
As all these people are, they're always right, right?
And these things are never an argument about reality, right?
So that's what's happening in the world.
But let me get to Kerchik.
So since he could not frame Fallows for anti-Semitism, look what these people do.
I mean, the whole article is ridiculous that he's calling him an anti-Semite, but I just want to show you what framing someone for anti-Semitism means.
So Fallows was describing why, as a Chinese expert, he was writing about the Iran, why he was so interested, right?
So in one of his articles, that's what he wrote.
This is what Kerchik does with Fallows explaining, you know, his interest, right?
He's explaining his interest in why he's so into the Iran deal, why he's backing the Iran deal.
So Kerchik, in this piece, it's in Tablet Magazine, he says, by means of explaining his intense interest.
This is what Kerchik said Fallows was doing, describing his interest, by means of explaining his intense interest.
What does that mean when Kerchik says, when he's saying that this is what Fallows is saying, right?
You understand he's basically, he's saying Fallows is explaining why I am an anti-Semite.
Why am I so interested by means of explaining his intense interest?
So that's where we're at.
Do you understand what I, was this coherent by means of explaining his intense interest?
Yeah, I get it.
You know, Commissar Goldberg has his little copycat sock puppet, Kerchik, who's, you know, trying desperately to pick up where the master left off.
And by the way, you know, somebody should stop and mention for a second that Jeffrey Goldberg lied us into war with a bunch of articles about Saddam's relationship with Osama bin Laden for the New Yorker back in 2002 and helped, you know, solidify that liberal Democrat Joe Biden-esque support for that adventure.
Yes.
Why is Jeffrey Goldberg quiet?
Because Jeffrey Goldberg is responsible for the murdering medic.
He should be in the dock with the murdering medic.
And that's why he's so quiet about this.
Because he has done more than anyone to take this anti-Semitism thing and put it at BDS, put it on anybody who's against, like, this is how crazy it's become.
Like a Palestinian can't have their own story.
They can't be like, they're minding their own business.
And Israel have a fine Zionist story.
And they might even be right.
And they might even be the chosen people.
And God might have even given them this land.
But these Palestinians don't know any of that.
And they, you know, and they've been treated a certain way.
And to go and put these, and this is what Jeffrey Goldberg does, which I will be writing about, and he knows I'm going to be writing about, is that he is responsible for making Muslims into Jew haters.
Anyone that criticizes, this is his career.
This is what he did.
His whole career is to take any time a Muslim, a Palestinian says Israel is to turn it into Jew.
That's it.
That is Jeffrey Goldberg's career.
That's what he does.
That's what everything is about.
You say something about Israel equals saying something about Jew.
Now, very good job.
You're a great propagandist.
Now look at Israel and look what you've done.
Because the whole country, you've convinced the whole country.
And now we have a little problem.
And that's what these people know.
These generals know about it.
And they're like, what do we do now?
The whole country believes, you know what the stats are?
65% of the country believes that it was good, or I forgot the exact question, that the murdering medic executed the guy.
Think about this.
They say 65% are approved.
And of course, don't think he should be in jail.
He should be a hero for shooting a guy who's no threat to anyone.
For executing a guy.
How could that be?
If Jeffrey Goldberg, why that number, that 65%?
It's because of Jeffrey Goldberg.
Because Jeffrey Goldberg and Netanyahu and Bret Stevens and Kirchick and all these guys have convinced, and Netanyahu is, of course, the greatest furniture salesman.
And that's what has convinced the Israeli people that the Palestinian resistance is based, they're Nazis.
They're ISIS-Nazis combination.
And now, and this is what I've been writing about, and this is why I stopped playing poker, because I realized Netanyahu is not cashing in.
They've crushed the Palestinians.
They have whatever they want.
This is the time to strike the best deal you want with the two-state solution and go on and live happily ever after.
Netanyahu is not doing that.
He's continuing his propaganda war with the Palestinians.
He's defeated.
They are defeated.
What is your war about these videos?
You know, he started with these videos a couple of months ago.
They're toxic.
They're poison.
He's poisoning his people.
Why is he continuing to poison the people?
If ultimately you have to live with these people, you've won already.
Stop poisoning them.
Of course, there's going to be some violence on their part.
But every violence, every act of violence on their part, it's Nazis.
That is the interpretation with Goldberg's hope.
And what happens when they try to be Gandhi, when they try BDS?
No violence, right?
They're going to try to say, yo, one man, one vote.
Something wrong with that?
What do they turn into that?
Look at the ADL.
BDS equals ancient Jewish hatred, ancient blood liables, all this nonsense.
What does that have to do with some Palestinian?
What do you want them to do?
What should the Palestinians do?
That's OK.
Nothing is OK.
So this is the situation in Israel.
Congratulations, Goldberg and Netanyahu and Brett Stevens.
Let's have a social science experiment of Israeli society.
And let's see what happens.
Because they all believe that the Palestinians are little Nazis.
OK, let's see what happens.
Well, and this gets back to, you know, you mentioned the videos there.
The video in question here that Netanyahu put out.
And this is, and Frank Luntz.
You know, I think it's worth mentioning that this stuff really works.
This propaganda line.
And I mean, works on Americans, too.
Not just Israeli Jews.
Not necessarily that, oh, there's a Holocaust that's going to happen any day now.
But what Americans think, it's just like, and people really ought to watch the Occupation movie.
It's only five bucks on iTunes.
It's really good.
It has, you know, all your PC characters in it.
It's nothing too controversial.
But they just explain the way, just because of the terminology used, you would think the average American know nothing, is under the impression that Palestine is already a state.
It's the country next door to Israel.
And they constantly send terrorist attackers to attack Israel because they're trying to extort land from Israel.
And jeez, how much land are the Israelis supposed to give up to these terrorists anyway?
Land for peace?
Doesn't that sound like negotiating with terrorists to you?
Why would you do that?
And so the whole frame of the thing is that it's all Palestinian aggression.
And never do they say, oh, actually, the Palestinians were conquered back in 1967.
And they live under not even martial law, but under war law occupation by a foreign army with a sock puppet government that rules over them.
That part of it is just completely left out.
They have to turn the truth entirely upside down.
And it does work.
And that is exactly what Americans think is the situation until someone finally explains to them, like, no, look at this map.
This is the West Bank.
OK, here's who rules it and here's who doesn't.
And once it's clear, then people are shocked and they go, oh, wow.
You know, but overall, the Frank Luntz messaging is it's pretty damn effective.
I think that, you know, going back to the original propagandists, they would be proud of, you know, the Frank Luntz is of the world of figuring out how to get people to think that the Palestinians are Arab supremacists who just won't give the Israeli Jews equal civil rights, you know.
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Yes, clearly.
I mean, not every American could be a Middle East scholar.
And if you have a guy speaking of English and he seems to be totally normal and he speaks your language and he says, you know, and he says reasonable things, you have no reason to believe that it's particularly controversial.
You know, Jeffrey Goldberg and his friends are the worst anti-Zionists in the world because they had a decision.
They could be like normal people and present Israel as a normal country, which means we could talk about these issues, which means that that Andrew Sullivan could say whatever he wants.
And even if he hurts Jeffrey Goldberg's feelings, Jeffrey Goldberg is not going to put him on trial for being an anti-Semite.
Right.
Or Jeffrey Goldberg could be a little child and be afraid to talk about these things and hide behind anti-Semitism and point to everything he doesn't want to talk about and call anti-Semitism.
Yes.
So you're going to get away with convincing the American people until you don't.
Right.
Until you can't talk.
Until Jeffrey Goldberg.
This happened in March.
The biggest expert on Israel, on America, on American Jewish relations and everything has not said one word as Israel is being turned upside down.
I mean, read Haaretz.
I mean, of course, it's not in the New York Times either, but read Haaretz and you read what's happening.
I just and look, just think about that Ehud Barak went to the Washington Post.
The great, the best news for Israel and who knows when they just got this big deal with America.
Everything's great.
Israel loves America.
America loves Israel.
Big hug.
What happened?
Barak, he burst the bubble.
Forget about this.
Netanyahu is evil.
There's no celebration.
It's the end of the country.
We have to stop him, which is what I said in June in that article I sent you.
They have to stop Netanyahu because they know they want to cash in.
These guys say, let's get this two state solution.
Whatever deal we can make, let's just do it because this will not end well.
You know, Barak and all these people, these people whose business it is, the security of the state of Israel know what's going on.
There is not going to end well and Netanyahu doesn't care about it.
He just cares.
He's so excited by his propaganda videos, like in the article in the Aharetz.
Let's say he's obsessed with how many likes he gets on his videos.
Okay, this is the prime minister of the country, right?
He's doing these, you understand these videos.
There's no videos like he does against the Palestinians in the world.
Every video is worse than the next.
One of his videos, he says he cares about the Palestinian people more than their leaders.
That was one of his great videos.
The other video, now we know about the bloodline.
The other video is this guy, which again, I wrote an article about.
I mean, this is what it means.
Let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
Ehud Barak, now for people not too familiar, this is the former prime minister and former defense minister in a coalition government with Netanyahu, and he actually has also used the word fascism to describe the current situation, or at least the very near future there.
And yet, he's Ehud Barak.
I wonder whether he really thinks this is an emergency, or he just wants to be the prime minister again, because he never seemed to me much better than Netanyahu in terms of self-interest.
Yes, because this is not...
You see, there's so many layers over here, because the big problem for Israel is not actually Netanyahu.
It's these people on the right, you know, who basically believe that the Palestinians are Nazis, or they believe that God gave them the land.
Netanyahu, they don't even know...
Like these guys, every guy who used to be close to Netanyahu, after he was fired or he left, he says Netanyahu is the most dangerous guy.
Every defense minister he had, every Mossad chief he had, every single guy, as soon as they leave, they say, this guy is bad news.
He's not interested in the interests of the state of the country.
So Netanyahu has to go because he has psychological problems, and he has a lot of issues, right?
So now, Barak is concerned about that right now, okay?
That Netanyahu has to go.
But of course, you know, Netanyahu, he just is going to win every election because he's cornered the market on this toxic hatred of the other, which he keeps on, you know, he keeps on giving it to the people.
He says, okay, no one could compete with him in that, right?
That's why there's no left wing in Israel, because the world has given Israel the permission to say whatever they want about Palestinians, no matter what they do to the occupying the people, the Palestinians, and the whole country feels like they're victims.
And every time there's violence, they're like, okay, they're going after the Jews again.
How could anybody defeat the guy if someone says, yeah, let's talk to the Palestinians?
Talk to the Palestinians.
You want to talk to the Nazis too, right?
So that's the story.
They have to get rid of this guy, Netanyahu.
So Barak, that's his mission now, whatever it takes.
The problem is he has no election until 2019.
So they have to hope that he'd probably corrupt Netanyahu.
But it's, you know, the best case scenario for the country is he gets thrown in jail and then let Barak and Yallon fight with the, you know, with the crazies and hope it works out and they make peace, you know?
But look at Goldberg.
If he couldn't find anything to say since March until now about Israel, you could just imagine how bad the situation is.
Well, and now I have to admit to you, Yakov, that I don't read Jeffrey Goldberg.
Well, I'm blocked on Twitter and I don't keep an eye on his column.
But it seems to me, I mean, I know I've read in the past where he says, no, hey, I'm totally reasonable and I'm for a two state solution because, yeah, it's true.
Otherwise, Barak is right that we face a future of apartheid.
And that is no stable situation to for Israel to last into the indefinite future.
You know, you've got to be an idiot to be a pro-Israel Zionist and not want to give up the West Bank at this point.
And so he's correct me if I'm wrong, because I could be.
But I think he takes that very acceptable liberal Democrat centrist position.
So why not say that?
See, this is proof I'm right instead of just ignoring it all.
That's why he's so much more pernicious than anyone else, because if you look at Jeffrey Goldberg, I hope some PhD student goes over all his tweets and articles and shows what he's up to as far as everything is propaganda.
So, yeah, his propaganda is, look, people think I'm a liberal.
People think I'm a conservative.
I'm right in the middle.
That's him.
That's his story.
So he's very proud to show the crazies on the right that call him a self-hating Jew.
Oh, these people are calling me a self-hating Jew.
It must be.
I'm just a normal middle of the road person.
Oh, so he keeps up.
That's what he tries to do.
But it's all nonsense.
OK, as I will show, he is a he has poisoned the Palestinians.
Now he wants to say, oh, yeah, of course, I'm for a two state solution.
Well, sorry, Jeffrey.
We should have spoken about a two state solution 20 years ago.
Now that you've poisoned the Palestinians and the Muslims in everyone's mind, there ain't no two state solution on the table anymore because nobody wants it in Israel anymore.
We're not going to.
These guys are going to.
They want, as Bret Stephens says, they want that.
They want the Palestinian.
He wrote this article called The Psychotic Stage.
That's Bret Stephens, the psychotic stage.
And what's happening now, you have to call evil.
We should not be afraid to call evil evil because the Palestinians are trying to stab every Jew in Israel one by one to death.
OK, now it's hard to say, OK, after you say that and convince Israel of that, then say, OK, it's time for us.
We've made peace now.
Let's have let's live together.
Right.
You can't do that.
That's the situation right now.
And Jeffrey Goldberg, whatever he wants to convince everybody else is responsible.
He is the most pernicious and toxic of all the propagandists.
Well, you know, the real reason for that is because he's got he's got the rest of the American national security reporter corps, you know, and not just national security, but just, you know, any kind of international relations or I guess particularly liberal Jewish writers on whatever issues who may want to comment on Israel.
He's just made the entire topic, you know, scary where who wants to cross this guy?
He's you know, he's been known as Commissar Goldberg, where he attacks people you never even heard of before.
He is the most anti intellectual Jew in history.
Jeffrey Goldberg thinks himself an intellectual is the antithesis of an intellectual.
He could not debate a child on any issue that he claims himself an expert on.
And that's the thing that people are afraid of.
Do you think you think that's really right that reporters are afraid to just get near that because of him and people like him?
If he gets on your case, you have to quit your job.
You have to divorce your wife.
You have to sell your stuff and you have to close, you know, lock up the house because that's what you're going to be doing for a year.
OK, so you have a choice.
You could say something to Jeffrey Goldberg.
Ask Walton Mersheimer.
Right.
The rest of Jeffrey Goldberg's like any chance you get to mention Walton Mersheimer.
He's going to mention Walton Mersheimer.
Now, slow down, because not everybody is experienced in all this stuff.
Tell that story, because that that's a very important example, I think.
Yes, it is a very important example.
Two academics, and I promise you, not anti-Semitic, not an anti-Semitic bone in their body, wrote a book called The Jewish Lobby.
And like everybody knows, the Israeli Israel lobby.
Don't you're going to get in the worst trouble now.
Oh, my God.
It was.
I'm sorry.
You're very important.
The Israel lobby.
They would not write The Jewish Lobby.
And that's not what the book was about.
They're very careful scholars.
And they basically wrote a book that if it would be about any other subject would not even be would stay would just be an academic book would get reviewed in The New York Times.
And there would be pros and cons.
Might not be the best book in the world.
Might not be the worst book in the world.
People would have their say.
That's not what happened with that book.
That book, a fatwa was put on that book.
Right.
A fatwa is I mean, there's no fatwa in Judaism.
But if you remember that Salman Rushdie wrote a book, The Satanic Verses and the Ayatollah put a fatwa on the book, which means which he had to go into hiding the Ayatollah and people try to kill him.
A fatwa means it is a Muslim edict to, you know, to kill to kill the author of the book.
So they put a so that's what Goldberg did with this book.
And and of course, these I mean, the issue and the the the debate about that book is absurd.
I mean, it is so absurd because the debate isn't about issues.
It's not about the debate is that Jeffrey Goldberg is like, oh, my God, you cannot say that.
You can't say Jews and power and influence Jews controlling the country.
Oh, my God.
So that's that's what happened.
So they buried these guys, just buried them like a lot of other people before them.
And since you just get buried with attacks and you can't even begin to defend yourself.
But it doesn't matter.
You can't defend yourself.
There is no defense.
You just have to ignore it because it's not really about any issue.
They Jeffrey Goldberg couldn't debate a 10 year old about the Israel lobby, but he could call a lot of names.
Oh, what is is is Walt similar to Lindbergh or Hitler or 19th century anti-Semitism go on and on and on and on, except debate the book.
Except if you ask me, hey, man, where should I start reading about the Israel lobby?
Well, Amazon.com, even with Prime, is going to take a few hours or whatever.
But I can direct you straight to an article by Jeffrey Goldberg in The New Yorker where Rosen, the later spy, you know, busted, indicted, but not prosecuted.
Ultimately, on the in the Larry Franklin case, told Jeffrey Goldberg that the power of the lobby, it's like a night flower.
You know, withers in the sunlight, but thrives in the dark.
And and, you know, you see this bar napkin, this cocktail napkin right here.
In 24 hours, I could have the signatures of 77 senators on this napkin, meaning, in other words, he could get any law passed in America.
He wants with a super veto proof majority no matter what it is, even if it's just a blank page.
It's a pack.
It's the lobby.
But Jeffrey Goldberg is really the lobby.
OK, think about it.
Jeffrey Goldberg, the lobby made, you know, attacked Wolff and Mersheim and made them crazy.
And Wolff and Mersheim know that Jeffrey Goldberg is the lobby and his behavior proves their point.
They cannot write a book without their lives ending.
Right.
That is the point.
Jeffrey Goldberg is the lobby, but the lobby is so powerful that Wolff and Mersheim can't even say, Jeffrey Goldberg, you are the lobby.
Don't you see?
Because if he did that, then he'd be really an anti-Semite.
So that's the story.
Jeffrey Goldberg is the lobby.
That's that look, you know, he APAC is the perfect example.
This is a beautiful example, because before APAC, Jeffrey Goldberg doing his Jewish thing, saying, oh, APAC is going to the Jews are really going to show everybody how to treat Trump.
That's what in my article on Jeffrey Goldberg, when I started to write, I wrote this article about Jeffrey Goldberg.
And this, I saw him do this on APAC during, let me start at the beginning.
Before APAC, Jeffrey Goldberg was saying that the Jews or the rabbis, they would make a statement about prejudice, like Jews are experts at prejudice.
So when Trump came to speak to APAC, there would be demonstrations, there would be walkouts.
So this is what he prepared his audience for, for this to happen at APAC, right?
That did not happen at APAC, right?
So now Jeffrey Goldberg is watching in real life time, usually he has time to bullshit with articles.
In real life time, he predicted that there would be, you know, people would not be happy, the APAC crowd would not welcome Trump.
You know, they would, they would boo Trump.
That's what he predicted.
Or there would be some dissonance or something.
That's not what happened.
Walk your celebration.
Now, do you know the tweets Jeffrey Goldberg, Jeffrey Goldberg's tweets during that APAC, during the Trump APAC speech says it all, because that just shows he is not a journalist.
Because he said, those hope, he tweeted, those who are surprised that a pro-Israeli audience like Trump's speech should stop being surprised.
I mean, it's not perfect, but that was the idea.
So he realized that there are people who are watching all this, you know, the applause, and they're like, people didn't understand.
Why are all these Jews, all these APAC, why are they all applauding Trump?
So this was confusion.
So Jeffrey Goldberg, he had to get control of the situation.
No, no, no, let me explain to you.
But he couldn't explain why these people are clapping for Trump.
So he just says, trust me, just stop being surprised.
Oh, he said, those who are surprised that a pro-Israeli crowd, a pro-Israeli audience is applauding Trump should stop being surprised.
So basically he's saying Jews are different.
Jews are allowed.
If they're applauding Trump, don't even ask why.
Trust me, Jews are allowed to applaud Trump, even though people, anyone else in the country, that's the Nazi, that's a Nazi rally.
But when Jews applaud Trump, don't even, just stop wondering, you know, stop being surprised.
That's the level we're at.
He tells his readers to stop being surprised.
I mean, this is Orwellian.
Stop being surprised.
I know you're surprised that they're all applauding Trump.
Stop it.
And why should you stop it?
Trust me, just stop being surprised.
That is Jeffrey Goldberg, okay?
Now you want to call him a journalist?
You can call him a journalist.
That's not a journalist.
And as I wrote, what did Peter Boehner, who most Americans wouldn't know the difference between a Jeffrey Goldberg and a Peter Boehner.
They're both with a two-state solution.
What's the difference?
That's Jeffrey Goldberg's game.
No, no, very big difference between Jeffrey Goldberg and Peter Boehner.
What did Peter Boehner do when he doesn't like Trump, just as much as Goldberg doesn't like Trump?
What did he do?
He went to the next day and he said, he said, Donald Trump, he said AIPAC does not speak for me.
He says, I am an American Jew and AIPAC does not speak to me.
Right?
And that's what Americans have to know.
They have to know the difference between Peter Boehner and Jeffrey Goldberg.
They have to know the difference between J.J. Goldberg and Jeffrey Goldberg.
And this is why Jeffrey Goldberg is poison, because when anyone talks to him the wrong way, he says, oh no, they're not talking to J.J. Goldberg.
They're not talking to Peter Boehner.
They're talking to Jeffrey Goldberg.
But Jeffrey Goldberg puts this palace around himself.
Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew.
You cannot look at him the wrong way and says, oh, you're looking at me because I'm a Jew?
Well, you don't like Jews?
You don't?
No, no, no.
We don't like you, Jeffrey Goldberg.
We love J.J. Goldberg.
We love all the Jews.
We don't like you, Jeffrey Goldberg.
So that's why he causes anti-Semitism, because anyone else that saw that Twitter come, that tweet, what do you mean?
I can't, you know, that he's just, he, he, he is, he is a activist.
That's what he is.
He is a Jewish pro-Israeli activist.
And that's fine.
Let him get a job at the Jewish press in Brooklyn and, and good luck to him.
But don't fool everyone that you represent anything other than Jeffrey Goldberg trying to get into the Clinton White House, because that's all he represents right now.
And I am going to point out that as often as I can, because he is poisoning the world, basically.
I want to just give you a chance real quick to, to refer to people, because you and, and Phil Weiss have a great article here about Luntz and this thing that he did in 2009.
And I was just wondering if real quick, you could give the background to this global language dictionary and this whole thing.
And yeah, people can go and read the article, but I really liked it.
It's just the, the, the blatantness.
Is that a word?
The, the, the amount of blatancy.
It's, it's just breathtaking and fun.
So please explain.
Imagine you're trying to sell, imagine you're trying to sell a really bad car.
Okay.
Toyota produces the worst car in history by accident.
And now it's like, oh, we've invested $20 trillion in this car.
What do we do?
This is the document to sell the car.
Okay.
That's what this document that Luntz put together is.
What is it?
Settlements?
You want to know the best arguments of settlements that will convince America?
Say this.
Oh, you, oh, say, tell Americans that it's like Mexico shooting rockets into, into America.
That's why we're bombing Gaza.
So it's basically a propaganda document to just say in nice English, exactly the best arguments for every, for everything that comes at you.
The relationship to truth is accidental.
Maybe they're good arguments.
Maybe they're not, but this is not about truth.
This is about to come up with the best argument that will convince the most of people.
That's all it's about.
It is pure propaganda.
And he is a propagandist.
And that's why Luntz is what he is.
Well, now he, now he and Netanyahu, it's unclear who did most of the work here, probably because as he said in the article, he's using some of Netanyahu's stuff because it's so good.
So that's what's happening.
They're selling a very bad car.
Israel right now is a, is a very bad car that they accidentally have to deal with.
And they need to sell this car.
How is the story going to end?
I don't know.
Because at some point things in Israel are taking their course.
And that's why, as I say again and again, Goldberg cannot spin what's going on in Israel.
He can just ignore it.
And that's what he's doing.
And that's why America doesn't know anything.
Americans don't know what's going on in Israel.
Of course, because it's all bad news.
But sooner or later, it's going to make the headlines.
Yeah.
All right.
Now, so again, it's called the Global Language Dictionary.
And anybody can read the whole PDF file online.
It's not too long.
And it really is a hoot.
I mean, it's fun to read in a way, just because it's so outrageous.
And audience, you guys might have heard me mention before the part, this is the same document we're talking about, when I mentioned about how the focus group results said that I don't know if it's the government in Jerusalem or exactly which government it was, is invoking zoning as a reason why it was OK to demolish these Palestinians' houses, because they were in violation of the zoning code.
And Luntz and the focus group determined that Americans hate zoning laws.
And whatever you do, you guys got to stop invoking zoning, especially when you're demolishing a 90-year-old house and, you know, because it passes your five-year-old zoning code that you just invented and this kind of thing and just basically stealing the property.
But whatever you do, don't call it zoning.
Call it defense from Arab racism or whatever you have to.
But don't call it zoning.
And I just thought that was funny because of, you know, what they thought originally their hypothesis was that that would be a great spin that, well, these people are in violation of the zoning code, you know.
But it turned out that we learned very quickly that you have to straighten that out.
So anyway, I just that's to me other than why won't the Palestinians just let the Jews live wherever they want in the West Bank?
It's not fair.
That's the second funniest bit in the whole thing, I think.
Yes.
Lots of fun.
All right.
Anyway, so yeah, again, the Global Language Dictionary.
And you guys can read this funny article, this great article by Phil Weiss and Yakov Hirsch.
It's at mondoweiss.net.
Yet Netanyahu's ghost on ethnic cleansing video is right-wing pollster Luntz.
And listen, I want to also mention Jeffrey Goldberg will be silent till he finds a way to spin all the bad news for the Jews.
News from Israel.
And that is Yakov Hirsch again at mondoweiss.net.
The great blog mondoweiss.net.
Thanks again very much for coming on the show.
Thank you.
All right, y'all.
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