Scott interviews Matthew Hoh about the apparent peace deal in the works between the United States and the Taliban in Afghanistan. The American side has announced such a deal as basically finalized, but as yet nothing has come from the Taliban to officially confirm that. The usual clamor has been coming from prominent neocons about how withdrawing now would be the same as admitting defeat. Scott and Hoh don’t totally disagree with that, but they know that if American troops stay in Afghanistan for another 20 years, or even longer, the same “defeat” would probably happen if they left then. The name of the game now is to leave before more Americans have to die for nothing, and hope for as much stability as possible when they’re gone. “Victory” just isn’t possible.
Discussed on the show:
- Defense Planning Guidance for the 1994–99 fiscal years
- “Will Americans Call Afghanistan a Victory?” (The Atlantic)
Matthew Hoh is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and formerly worked for the U.S. State Department. Hoh received the Ridenhour Prize Recipient for Truth Telling in 2010. Hoh is a member of the Board of Directors for Council for a Livable World and is an Advisory Board Member for Expose Facts. He writes on issues of war, peace and post-traumatic stress disorder recovery at matthewhoh.com.
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