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All right, introducing Ted Postol.
He is a professor emeritus of science, technology, and national security policy at MIT.
His main expertise is in ballistic missiles, but he also has substantial background in air dispersal.
And he has taught courses on weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological threats at MIT.
Formerly worked as an analyst at the Office of Technology Assessment, as a science and policy advisor to the chief of naval operations, and as a researcher at Argonne National Laboratory.
And you're probably familiar with the fact, listeners of this show anyway, regular listeners, that he was involved in the debate over the sarin attack in Ghouta in eastern Damascus in 2013.
And now there's another alleged sarin attack in Syria, this one that took place on April the 4th.
And Ted has again chimed in with his analysis of events.
There are, I believe, there's three parts.
Now, I couldn't find the third, but I saw the headline somewhere before.
But I know you can find at least the first two at UNZ.com and also at Zero Hedge.
And am I right about that, Ted?
Welcome to the show.
Is there a third part of this report now?
Yes, there's now five reports, well, five, and I posted something.
Well, I didn't post it, I sent it out yesterday, and I'm sure it's posted by now.
Okay.
So.
All right, so five of them.
I'm going to have to catch up.
Please forgive me, I'm way behind.
That's okay.
That's okay.
Let's start with.
I'm way exhausted.
Sure.
I bet you are.
Well, and I bet you know just exactly which parts of it you want to talk about by now, too, with all the interviews you've been doing.
Let me ask you this.
So yeah, April 4th, there was an attack.
Some other things happened.
And then the White House put out a report saying, here's why we believe that the Syrian government dropped a bomb from the air that was full of, I don't want to paraphrase.
They said, they made some claims about some chemical weapons.
I don't know if they say exactly sarin or sarin-like, what have you, the exact quote.
But they say there was a gas bomb dropped by the Syrian government.
It was responsible for these scores of deaths here.
And then that was when you started writing and said that this report is not credible, and they do not provide evidence to substantiate their claims in this report.
That seems like probably the best place to start this debate.
Is that right?
Right.
Yeah, I would say, well, I'm saying, I don't believe that this report was done by any competent intelligence people.
This report has the appearance of it being constructed by a group of amateurs, probably at the National Security Council.
And it refers to evidence that can be looked at.
So when you look at the evidence, which is an alleged crater where sarin was supposed to have been released from an airdrop munition, it is absolutely unambiguously clear that there was no airdrop munition that dispensed anything.
All that is in the crater is a tube that's probably from, well, that's usually used to manufacture 122 millimeter rockets.
The tube is crushed from the outside.
So if it was for sarin dispersal, it had to have been crushed from some kind of external force, not an internal force.
Typically what you do when you're dispensing something like sarin is you would have the liquid.
It's a liquid.
It has the appearance of water.
It's odorless and colorless.
And you would have a very small explosive charge inside the container to just rupture the container and cause the sarin to disperse.
And this pipe is crushed from the outside.
So the only way it might have been used as a sarin dispersal device, which incidentally I don't believe it is, would be if you had placed an explosive outside, buy it next to the tube and maybe put a big rock on top of the explosive to project the explosive pressure wave toward the tube and crush the tube from the outside with the explosive.
But that's not what the White House claimed.
They claimed there was an airdrop munition.
And there's no evidence for anything that looks like an airdrop munition at this site.
Now maybe I should add that my colleague Richard Lloyd and I in 2013 were the first to identify the munition that was used in the attacks in Damascus.
And there was an article published about our finding in the New York Times.
And two weeks later, the U.N. was finally able to get in and they published their findings which were exactly the same as ours, but two weeks later.
So I have some experience identifying these munitions.
And to clarify what you're saying about this, you're saying the pipe in the pictures, and I've seen the pipe that you're talking about here, and I understand what you're saying when you say it looks like there was an explosion took place outside of this tube that smashed it down and would have at least ostensibly released whatever was in there, poison gas or otherwise, this kind of thing.
But just if I can misparaphrase you so you can straighten me out here, are you saying that if this had been a bomb of any kind dropped from a fighter plane, that it wouldn't look anything like that?
You wouldn't have a tube like this of any description?
You would have something altogether different in terms of shrapnel, whatever bomb fragments left over?
Exactly.
And in fact, if you had had a bomb that was designed to disperse sarin, you would have casing materials all over the place because the bomb would have some kind of small explosive in it and the explosive would shatter the outer shell of the bomb and disperse the sarin.
That makes sense.
And I'm sorry, because I know this is into the realm of speculation here, but it seems kind of strange too, though, that it would make sense for them.
I mean, I agree with you that it doesn't really make sense that sarin or anything else was actually released from that tube, but it seems like a funny way to stage a crime scene as well.
That, you know, yeah, see, it was a sarin attack.
Look at this tube that then they smashed from the outside with an explosive of some kind when, as you're saying, that's not what an airdrop bomb would look like, but I guess close enough for a day's work on CNN, that kind of thing, or?
Well, I think the fact that the White House report identified this crater as it did, and I was able to go and find the journalistic videos and photographs of the crater due to the White House pointing to it, indicates that there was absolutely no attempt to get a competent professional intelligence review of this White House report that alleges to be an intelligence report.
Nobody at all would certify that this intelligence report is competently done, and I think there are very serious questions about why this report was released, because it's obviously not an intelligence report.
It's falsely represented as an intelligence report.
So I think this is quite serious.
Well, I actually talked with Phil Giraldi today, the former CIA officer, and he says that there are people inside the intelligence services who are really upset about this and the way that it's been misrepresented.
So well, we have these very hardworking, you know, quite servants of the American people in the intelligence community.
I've criticized the intelligence community myself from time to time, but these are big organizations.
I know people who've been involved.
These are very, you know, many of these people are very good and very dedicated, and they're being used as a full, you know, as an instrument of what looks like political manipulation.
So if I were in their position, I would be very upset myself.
I am upset, and I'm not in their position.
Well now, so is there, I mean, really, this picture itself could be staged.
I mean, they could have got this pipe and hammered it out, you know, a month ago and only just dropped it here.
Is there any other evidence, staged or otherwise, of any other shrapnel or any other bomb fragments around that crater, or this is it that they're showing us?
Well, this is it.
In fact, there are earlier photographs of the crater relative to the diagram, the photograph I used in my earliest report.
The photograph I used in my earliest report was published by The Guardian in an article on April 6, and I went back and looked at all the video that I could find, and there are earlier renditions of that crater, and it looks like that particular piece of metal that is lying flat in the crater in the photograph that I first used is not what the crater looked like initially.
It looked like this pipe was vertically in the ground within the crater, and then there are definitely, I mean, I have video of people coming and pulling this thing out of the ground and digging around the crater.
So the crater, the image of the crater that was shown in The Guardian article published on April 6 was in fact an image that was tampered, the crater had already been tampered with.
And as I said in my first piece, that nobody who was competent would have assumed that the crater was not tampered with.
In fact, I was very careful to point that out, that I'm assuming the crater was not tampered with, which I think is not a good assumption, and under those conditions, this is what you would guess happened.
And now it turns out that the crater was tampered with beyond that.
Well, all right, now, I admit I have not gone and tried to give a fair hearing to the Bellingcat version of all of this, which I'm sure is that Assad did it.
I don't even need to look at the site to know that.
But I did see a couple of tweets where the Bellingcat people were saying, look, this pipe has a green stripe on it.
And where do you see a pipe with a green stripe?
Russian chemical weapons.
Is that your only comment, laughter?
Well, you know, my colleague, Dick Lloyd, and I tried to work with Bellingcat during the 2013 attack, and they, in particular, they did not know anything about the science and technology of these devices.
When we first identified the munition, they had no idea what we were talking about.
When we pointed out that the munition could not fly a long range in the 2013 attack and had to have been launched within rebel-controlled areas, as defined by a White House map that was supposedly part of an intelligence released by the White House, Bellingcat started inventing information that there were Syrian troops really operating within the rebel-controlled areas.
They didn't understand the most basic, elementary aspects of how a rocket flies.
They were trying to raise questions about our analysis.
It was just like, I mean, actually, I've discussed, I pride myself with being able to explain these things, and I would say that I could have done better with a rather young child relative to what they seemed to be able to understand.
And then, of all things, there was this other character who's associated with them, Mr.
Daniel Cazetta, and he was running around claiming that hexamine was in the samples that the UN found, that this was a clear indicator that the sarin was manufactured by the Syrian government.
Of course, hexamine is a byproduct of an explosive.
And there's hexamine all over the place there, because there are explosives all over the place that have been detonated.
Then, he claimed that Aka Selstrom, the UN team leader of the inspection team, had told him that he was right with this allegation that hexamine was unique to Syrian nerve agent.
I wrote Professor Selstrom, and he was very gracious getting back to me, and he told me that he had never said such a thing.
So, you know, I wrote up a rather detailed document about Mr. Cazetta and his friend that Bellingcat, Elliot Higgins, and I published it.
You know, it's available anywhere if people look it up.
And basically, these guys are frauds.
They are people who have manufactured credentials that they don't have.
I went and looked at Mr. Cazetta's alleged expert publications.
The closest thing he did, he has to his record of a publication about nerve agents is a manual about what you do if there's a release, how to clean up the area, and how to handle the materials.
You know, it's not even clear that his publication isn't just simply copied from other publications.
There's nothing special about it that would make him, you know, indicate that he's a true expert on nerve agent.
He was talking about the chemistry of manufacturing the nerve agents, and he had no idea what he was talking about.
The chemistry turned out to be all wrong.
So I would say that Bellingcat is less than a bunch of amateurs.
They are really a bunch of frauds.
And I must say I'm very disturbed by the press continuing to use them as a source for information when the press has to know if it did any work at all that these guys have been shown in detail to be frauds.
So you know, to me, this is as much a statement about the media as it is about these guys at Bellingcat that the media hasn't done the simplest amount of homework to look up this document that I produced, which, you know, would be, you know, it would be slander if the facts in it weren't absolutely correct.
And so, you know, I'm waiting for the slander.
Yeah.
I mean, this guy, Cosetta, was threatening me with slander.
I said, please do, you know, because if you try anything, I'll make sure that you pay a higher price, that you pay a high price for it, because that's a false allegation.
All right.
Well, let me stop you there for a second and turn it around on you, because, hey, MIT, that sounds pretty impressive.
And I'm reading your bio here at Zero Hedge.
It says that you have a substantial background in air dispersal, including how toxic plumes move in the air.
So that sure sounds like an impressive credential beyond Bellingcat level.
But can you elaborate, please, and tell us what exactly that means?
Well, I don't know what it means, quite frankly.
I'm a scientist by training.
And, you know, lots of things have been said about me that, quite frankly, I think are inflated.
I mean, I think I, I mean, I can show that I know what I'm doing, but, you know, it's just, it's just, you know, I, you know, I was teaching a course where I needed to discuss chemicals and biological agents.
So I sat down and learned about air dispersal.
You know, this is what a good scientist should be able to do.
So my expertise comes from, you know, reviewing published documents and learning about the ins and outs of how to make an estimate.
And you know, I wouldn't say, you know, I haven't gone to school over it, but I'm pretty sure that I know as much as anybody who did go to school over it.
And, you know, so I'm not the world's leading ballistic missile expert.
I know quite a bit about ballistic missiles, but I've been portrayed as that as well.
And I'm quite honestly, I don't know where these things are coming from.
What I can say is that I have a very substantial technical background in this area.
And I have published over many decades, technical works, many of which were different from what the mainstream believed was, was the situation.
And in every case where there was an investigation, I was proven correct.
So that seems to me should be enough.
I mean, you know, being a faculty member at an institution like MIT should indicate that the person has the ability to learn about, you know, as they move forward.
And that's what's going on.
You know, that's that's all I've done is applied things I've learned over the years.
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Right.
And well, and I guess we'll see whether, you know, other air dispersal experts want to dispute your claims.
I haven't heard anyone's tried yet.
I don't see there's anything to dispute.
We know.
I want to ask you about the what you wrote here.
And I'm sorry, because I've only read two of the five pieces, but it can you address the wind?
Because you you go over the weather report and the sunrise and everything here about, you know, if if the gas did come from here, which way it would have gone and and how long it would have lingered and all these things that you divine here.
Well, basically, incidentally, I initially got the wind direction wrong by 180 degrees.
So my joke with a farmer friend of mine is I can't tell which way the wind is blowing.
So but well, we'll be careful.
I misunderstood the definition of wind direction.
But that's that's all been corrected.
So we know we know pretty much what where the average general winds were blowing at the time of the alleged release.
And it was the wind would have carried the the sarin, assuming there was a release to the to the east northeast.
And I have diagrams laid out in the report.
So anyone who's interested could look.
And there is a populated area immediately next to this alleged sarin release site.
So that should have been the area, assuming there was a release where there would have been a large number of casualties.
Those casualties would have been generated sometime, perhaps between 720 and 730 in the morning.
The attack was supposed to have begun was the munition was dropped, supposedly, according to the White House.
At 655 a.m., they have three decimal places precision, but let's say 7 a.m.
The the sarin dispersal cloud, which, incidentally, I do not believe existed, but let's just take the White House report literally.
The sarin release cloud would have drifted into a heavily populated area within a few minutes of the dispersal.
It would have taken a few more minutes to disperse.
You know, it's a very low wind that was maybe one or two meters per second.
So a slow walk, it would be drifting at that rate.
It would have to, you know, it would drift up against houses.
So some of it would drift downward, perhaps into a basement, an open basement window where people could be poisoned.
Some of it would drift into the windows of houses that are facing in the direction of the wind.
Some of it would have gone up or down alleys and over roofs, you know, would have been a very gentle process because the wind would be gently pushing it.
So within, you know, let's say five or ten minutes, people would start feeling the consequences of sarin poisoning.
Some people who are in intense regions would have pretty much died within a couple of minutes.
Other people might have gotten very low doses of sarin, but they would have had symptoms.
So they would have been nauseated, vomiting, dizzy, disoriented.
These are symptoms of low levels of sarin poisoning.
And you would expect that there would probably have been a general panic because people would have been aware, people who were not killed would have been aware that other people were showing similar symptoms.
People would be, some people would be dead.
And all of this would play out, let's say, by 730.
So by 730 there should be people dead within this area.
There's no evidence of any kind of photography of dead people in this area, none at all.
The only thing you have from journalists, multiple journalists, who were at this crater are the journalists showing you the crater, which is not where an airdrop munition released sarin that we know from just the debris.
And then in one case, the journalist actually turns around and walks 20 meters in the opposite direction to the sarin dispersal and walks into a yard and shows the audience a dead goat.
Now I don't understand why this journalist wouldn't walk in the direction of the sarin dispersal and shown dead bodies all over the place.
I mean, it's kind of crazy if that's what supposedly happened.
People walked into the area and said, walked into this other area and said, this is where all these people died.
Instead, it's, it's, there's no indication at all that this adjacent area is an area of mass death.
Now the only videos you can find that suggest that there are mass numbers of people poisoned are taken at the civil defense center, which is a distance away.
I can't, I don't know where it is, but it's, it's a distance away from the, from the site where people would have been poisoned.
Now here's the problem you have there.
I can place the time at which this video was taken.
The video was taken at eight o'clock AM.
I can do this from the sun shadows.
So this means within a half hour, a very large number of dead and dying, dead and dying were transported to this civil defense shelter.
Now first thing you do is if you're, if you come across a mass casualty scene and you're, you're a, you're, you're trying to save people.
You don't transport the dead to, to a hospital.
You transport the living who look like you have a chance of saving.
So at eight o'clock, a half hour after this mass casualty scene should have occurred, which we have no data, no reference to, we have dead bodies and, and people who look like they have symptoms of some kind of poisoning all strewn around randomly at this supposed civil defense site, at least in the video.
Now, one of the things you would do if you were operating a site like this is the first thing you want to do is separate the dead from the living because the living are the people you're going to try to save.
So you'd have an area where you had bodies stacked that were dead and you, you had, and then you'd have people in, in an area where you could, where workers could walk through the crowd and identify people who are just too far beyond help and not do anything with them.
And relative to people who look like they can be saved, you don't see any of that in this scene.
It's just people are strewn around randomly, dead mixed with living.
Some of these people look like they may have actually been poisoned, others.
It's hard to know.
So this is the evidence they have of a mass casualty scene.
Now I think there could have been mass casualties.
Okay.
So, so there could have been mass casualties and the evidence that's consistent with this possibility, I want to underscore, I do not know, but there is evidence consistent with the possibility of a mass casualty scene is one of the four explosions that were videoed when the attack occurred at around 7 a.m.
There was a video of the, of the debris clouds from the explosions.
One of the explosive clouds at its base was five, at five times the area of the explosive cloud relative to the basis of the other three explosions.
Now that strongly looks like that that was an ammunition dump that the Russians said were, was hit because if you, if you dropped the bomb on an ammunition stash, you would have had secondary explosions and the area at the base of the, you know, the mushroom cloud that's created by the, by the exploding device would, you'd have all these secondary explosions.
So the area would be a lot larger.
So that could explain why the area was five times larger than the other three explosions.
And we know that a large amount of toxic materials can be created from just fire following one of these events.
We don't know if this was an ammunition depot, we don't know that there weren't chemicals stored there.
There may have been precursor chemicals for nerve agents, but you know, just things like foam from furniture and retardant, fire retardant materials and walls can combust to give you cyanide.
And this is a big, this is a big poisoning hazard.
When you have fires, you have carbon monoxide and cyanide and people downwind of this gigantic explosion and debris cloud could readily be poisoned from the combustion products associated with this munition detonation.
The wind was traveling very slowly, which means that the region of toxic gases would move very slowly and be persistent over a populated area that's adjacent to the ammunition site.
This could well explain the casualties that were being shown at the civil defense center, but I just don't know.
But none, the important thing is that the White House report cannot possibly be correct based on their own cited evidence, which means that it could not possibly have been properly reviewed by competent intelligence analysts.
Because I know a lot of these people over the years and they're far from stupid.
They're quite capable and nobody competent would have said this, would have allowed this report to go out if they had any authorization over it.
So we know that one story is false.
The other story is possibly true.
I can't say it is true, but it's certainly consistent with the evidence we can see from fragments of video.
All right.
Now, I think you wrote about satellite pictures of the crater in the street and all that.
But so that has me wondering whether there's satellite pictures of the building that seems to be the one of the four explosions that stood out.
Does that correlate with the Russian claims?
I mean, I know, for example, the Guardian reporter had said, well, here's the building.
And obviously there were no munitions stored in here.
But who said that was the building?
It sounds like it was a different building altogether that was bombed.
The one that the 14 year old girl mentioned to The New York Times.
But I just in other words, do we have we have it narrowed down then right to the city block that needs to be investigated?
I've been trying to get a sense of where this building could be.
But I've searched fruitlessly through all of the stuff that's on the Web, looking for maybe someone published an aerial photograph or something.
There is none.
There is there is a pretty good aerial image of the crater that was alleged by the White House to be the Sarin release point.
And the reason for that was one of the journalistic teams that was out there had a drone that they flew to high altitude and looked down.
And that gives quite a lot of detail of the, you know, of the scene relative, you know, after the crater was generated.
But there's nothing about that, you know, with regard to this other area, which strikes me as rather peculiar.
I mean, why would you have all these news people at this crater that almost looks silly?
When you had clearly had a major explosion in the in the city itself and nobody with video of it up close, I just find that peculiar.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I really don't know.
In other words, you know, one more piece of this is that Gareth Porter is saying the greatest reporter in the world is saying that he's got an intelligence source that says that the Russians did call ahead, just like they claim, called ahead on the deconfliction line and said, we're going to hit this storage depot.
I mean, that would really throw cold water on the idea that they were planning on a gas attack, that they would call America and call it something else, let them know about the attack, but pretend it was going to be something else and then have a result in this gas thing.
Just that doesn't seem very plausible.
But then again, you know, there's accidental poison gas spill and then the White Helmets and Al Qaeda guys spring into action and frame up this thing and grab a pipe with a green stripe and and make it try to come up with this story about this this airdrop bomb that hit the crater in the road and and all this.
You know, I mean, I guess it sounds like a busy morning.
It's possible.
But that sounds a little bit silly, too.
I don't know.
Well, I mean, I don't know either.
I want to be very.
I don't want to overstate.
Yeah, I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, either.
But but I do think it's plausible.
The reason it's plausible is because this area is tightly controlled by Al Qaeda, Al Nusra and whatever other elements are there.
And nobody is going to get away with filing a report that contradicts what the line that they want to project.
Keep in mind that we only have, you know, maybe a minute or two of video, which which the media mainstream media has used as if it were accurate.
And we know it's not accurate.
We don't know.
We don't know what is true and what is not.
But we absolutely know it is not accurate.
We know that there was no sarin release.
There's no evidence of a sarin release at that site.
And we have reporters there and going going back and forth.
People in the crater digging, you know, pretty much not a good choice if there was a sarin release there.
And, you know, goats from the opposite direction of where the sarin went.
No mention at all of the mass casualties that would have occurred if there was a sarin release at that site.
You know, it does have a site, a civil defense site that looks entirely different from the kind of triage you would know you have to do if you're if you're trying to handle a mass casualty situation, you know, with bodies stacked in one place and the living in a region where people can go through and pick them out.
None of that.
None of that.
Yeah.
I saw where Bernard at the Moon of Alabama blog also pointed out that one of the primary symptoms of sarin poisoning is the loss of all bowel control.
And yet in all these pictures, the floor is clean.
Pants are clean.
There's no evidence that you have tens of people here all losing control of their bowels at the same time.
And with these pictures of people stacked up, you know, living in debt, as you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a pretty big dog that didn't bark.
If that assuming that's really correct, that that's one of the first symptoms.
But he seemed to know the first thing that will happen is you'll start urinating and you lose your urinate.
You'd be urinating on yourself.
And you know, your bowels would.
So that seems like a pretty big that seems like a pretty big hole in their theory right there.
If that's the few pictures they got have, you know, don't seem to corroborate that sort of loss of control at all.
Yeah.
The only the only the only videos that I have seen that could indicate nerve agent poisoning are a pinpoint pupils, you know, the when they shine a light into the eye of a victim.
Yeah, I saw a clip like that, too.
But but and that would be an indication of nerve agent poisoning.
The problem is you don't know where those videos came from.
They're in a dark room with people around, you know.
Where is this from?
Well, is that is that symptom exclusive of other types of poisoning, if it had been chlorine or if it had been something else?
Well, if it's hydrogen cyanide, the the pupils would be would tend to be dilated rather than pinpoint.
But you could have had nerve agent mixed in, you know, you could have had a very inhomogeneous cloud of toxic material from this site because it's absolutely true, unlike what the Americans seem to be now saying, that the the rebel forces do have access to sarin precursors.
We know that.
And the UN has even made that point.
So so a sarin precursor, they they have to use any sarin that they make from the precursors has to be used relatively quickly because it will decay relatively quickly because they don't have the refined chemical procedures for separating the sarin from other materials, other chemicals that are generated in the process, particularly hydrogen fluoride gas, which causes the breakdown of the sarin that's produced at the same time.
So what you would do is you'd mix the precursors together.
It would be a material called methyl phosphonyl difluoride is one of the precursors.
That's very hard to make.
But so that's that's an exotic material which we know they have.
We don't know where they got them, got it, but we know they have that and they would then have isopropyl alcohol to mix with it.
That's how they get the sarin.
And you remember the source for that, how you know that they do have at least some of that precursor?
There's a UN report, I just saw it referred to that came out quite a while back.
I do know that people are reporting that intelligence in the US had concluded that the rebels had had precursors.
There was a report by Seymour Hersh that precursors were given to Al Nusra by the Turkish Erdogan in Turkey because he was hoping they would use it in a way that would implicate Assad, who he'd like to get rid of.
There were certainly powerful evidence from the 2013 attack in Damascus that rebels were likely a source of the of the actual attack.
I can't say for sure, but it doesn't look like it was the Syrian government.
Again, I can't say for sure, perhaps Bellingcat can say for sure, but all their evidence is nonsense.
I think we all remember that they changed their theory about where the rocket was launched from three or four times to try to make it fit before everybody gave up on Yeah, well, there's very little doubt that there are amounts of sarin held by rebel elements.
And what I guess, but I don't know again, is you could, if you had sarin, if you had sarin, if you wanted to have the ability to use sarin, you would store it as the two precursor materials.
So, for example, this ammunition dump could have had drums of precursor materials.
The explosions would shatter the drums, they wouldn't necessarily burn the drums up because the explosions are very hot where the explosion actually occurs.
But most of the damage is done by by flying fragments and and the pressure wave from the detonation point.
So you'd have these drums that are shattered or burst open.
And all this stuff would be on the floor reacting.
And so you could imagine that there would be traces of sarin in this debris cloud.
And if you were unlucky enough to be in the wrong location as this element of the debris cloud came over you, you could be you could suffer sarin poisoning.
So it's not a it's not proof by any means.
You know what, though?
It sounds like all of these different theories are all very provable if there was ever any kind of investigation.
But I guess there just won't be.
Well, I think there should be.
And I think all you need to do, all that needs to be done is to get the addresses of the people who were injured and killed.
And that will tell you which story is right.
If you'll either find this area adjacent to the dispersal crater, the alleged dispersal crater, which I think will be pristine, you won't find any problems there, or an area.
Next to this alleged ammunition dump, and it won't be far away, it'll be right downwind.
We know where to look.
And if you get if people were living in that area who are dead and injured, you know that it was the ammunition dump.
You don't even need to do all this forensic analysis of exactly what was in the debris cloud, because, you know, the debris cloud is likely is almost is certainly toxic.
It's certainly toxic, whether there's sarin in it or not.
That's a different you know, that's to be determined.
But it would certainly be a toxic cloud.
We have industrial accidents from the past.
We know the wind was moving slowly, which means the cloud moved over an area and stayed there.
It was as it took a long time to pass over the area, which means that people in that area were exposed for a significant period of time as the cloud moved over them.
So all we need is the address schedule.
Well, yeah, that's a very good point.
That's a very good rocket science.
Yeah, good.
And so call the Census Bureau and have them take care of it then.
Right.
Right.
All right.
All right.
Any other major points that I should have thought of to ask you before I let you go here, sir?
No, I think I think we've pretty much covered most of what.
All right.
Well, let me say here, I think we have the full collection of your series here appear appear to all be at Washington's blog at Washington's blog dot com.
Is there another place where these are all going up first?
No, I've been so busy.
I haven't had a chance.
I'm just trying to look at things and try to.
I see.
They just go out to your email list and whoever posts and posts some kind of thing.
Right.
I got you.
Exactly.
Well, then in that case, I'm going to go ahead and try to collect them all and post them up at the Libertarian Institute as well.
So that would be fine.
Very good.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much for your time, sir.
I really appreciate it.
Happy to have done it.
All right, y'all.
That is Ted Postal.
Theodore Postal, you can find him here at UNS dot com at Washington's blog.
And I'm going to track down all these.
I think Washington's blog has them all.
I'm going to steal them from there and post them all up at the Institute for you guys to to read the nerve agent attack that did not occur.
That's one of them.
And the first is the nerve agent attack in Khan Shaikhan, Syria.
I'm Scott Horton.
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