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Welcome back to the show, Cindy, it's been way too long.
How are you?
Oh gosh, Scott.
Thank you.
I know it's been really long.
We go back, way back to my early days, not too long after Casey was killed, so it's really good to talk to you again.
Yeah.
Well, so for people who don't know, and I'm sure you come across this too, so much time has passed.
That was 13 years ago now, when we met, I guess 14 years since his death.
There are a lot of young people who really did not live that history.
You know, they were just kids in school or whatever at the time and, and don't really know the story of Iraq war two at all.
They may have heard of you, but they don't know your story.
So can you tell us a little bit about Casey?
Well, you know, Casey joined the military in the year 2000 when he was 21 years old.
He was my oldest son, just a real good kid.
I don't know many parents who would describe their children as bad kids, but you know, Casey was an Eagle Scout.
He was devoted to service.
He worked at the church, volunteered at the church to be an altar server until he was 18.
Then he was doing different kinds of ministries and he got his associate in arts degree at the community college before he joined the military.
And then, so that was in 2000 and then pretty much, you know, the U.S. on, on September 11th, 2001, I almost said the U.S. was attacked, but I'm not sure, you know, still what happened that day, the U.S. was attacked, but there's a lot of, of course, controversy and we're all still wondering what actually happened that day because there's never been a full and transparent investigation about the events on 9-11.
The U.S. then attacked Afghanistan in October of, of 2001 and then Iraq in March of 2003 and then Casey was killed in Iraq as a member of the 1st Cavalry in the Army and on April 4th, 2004.
So we never believed in the wars.
We didn't believe the lie, and when I say we, I believe my family, I'm talking about my family.
I'm talking about Casey.
We didn't believe all the hype that led to the invasions.
You know, Casey openly said that, that the people of Iraq were not his enemy before he left and then he was killed just like slightly a week after he got to Baghdad in 2004.
People may be familiar with the miniseries that came out last year, The Long Road Home.
I watched the first part of it because a friend of mine actually helped build the set up there at Fort Hood, but I didn't, I didn't watch the whole thing.
Did you watch it?
Were you unhappy with the portrayal?
I couldn't watch it.
How could, how could anybody watch the events that, you know, even if they're fictionalized?
Not only was it hard, I was trying to watch the World Series, Scott.
The Dodgers were in the World Series for the first time in a long time.
I was born in Los Angeles.
I've been a Dodger fan my entire life, but every commercial, it was about that day.
It was really, really hard.
It was about April 4th.
And the person who wrote the book that it was based on, Martha Raddatz, yeah, she interviewed me for the book and she like completely ignored everything that I said.
And she wove a very deceitful tale.
But of course she is a part of the whole military industrial complex media, military industrial media complex.
And the thing is about this, Scott, is that none of the families of the people who died even knew that this was in production.
You know how I found out?
I found out because I like put my name in Twitter and the woman who played me was talking about it.
I was like, what the hell is this?
Wow.
Yeah.
She didn't.
The production did not reach out to any of the families.
I heard from her.
She called my ex-husband.
He was also very upset and all the families I'm in contact with were upset.
And she called him, but then she emailed me to say, hey, Cindy, I just want to let you know this is happening right before it aired.
And she said, you know, just really like crap, you know, crappy things about, I'm a grandma too.
I hope you're enjoying your grandchildren.
Like that is somehow going to obviate our feelings about this.
So yeah, it was really extraordinarily poorly done.
Plus it was just a pack of lies.
I mean, I understand she wrote in her book that the people of Iraq were using old people and young people as, you know, human shields.
I've spoken to, and like the first cavalry was somehow provoked into this action.
I've spoken to people, Iraqi people and other U.S. soldiers that basically said that the first cavalry was taking over the, they called it Camp War Eagle.
It was a forward operating base.
They were taking over the command and they just wanted to go around the community and express their, you know, show the people of Iraq who the new bullies were in town.
And eight U.S. troops were killed that day, but hundreds of Iraqi people were killed.
And to dehumanize the people of Iraq that way, like they didn't care about their young people and their old people is really terrible.
And it just further, as you know, it just further rationalizes these wars that somehow they are just and that they are necessary when they're just, as we know, built on lies and for profit and for spreading the U.S. evil empire.
Yeah.
I mean, that's really too bad to hear all that.
I mean, it's not surprising about Martha Raddatz that she would do something like that.
Take a story like this and, and, you know, try, in other words, you know, really take advantage of your situation for her.
Do you remember, Scott, when people were always attacking me for profiting off of my son's death?
Yeah.
I actually put your name in, in Google News or in DuckDuckGo news search and it pulled up an article from 2005 by Ben Shapiro about what garbage you are and what a hero George Bush is for spreading freedom to the world.
People are always asking me, gee, why is this guy so bad on foreign policy?
I think he was born that way.
Right.
And then it's interesting that as we speak, the first lady of this horrible family, Barbara Bush, recently passed.
And we're not supposed to say anything bad about the dead, but this woman married a war criminal, gave birth to at least two war criminals.
And she has, they say she's classy, but before, I think it was like when the U.S. was invaded or her son was invading Iraq, the U.S. empire, she said that she didn't want to hear about body bags because she didn't want to hurt her beautiful mind or something like that.
And then she said the people, the refugees for Katrina were better off being stuffed into the Astrodome or the Superdome or whatever.
I mean, just a horrible person.
And she, she was 92.
She lived almost four times longer than my son got to live.
So excuse me if I'm not shedding any tears over her demise.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't even believe that's a news story, really.
Who cares about Barbara Bush, for Christ's sake?
Like you're saying, if there's anything to remark about her, it's about how absolutely cold and psychopathic she was.
I don't want to waste my beautiful mind thinking about body bags.
In fact, the statement was, it's not relevant.
Right.
So of course it's not relevant if you're a Bush.
Right.
You know?
And her death isn't relevant either.
I saw a picture of George W. with the crown prince, Ben Salman, the other day with this huge grin on his face.
He doesn't have a care in the world, George W. Bush.
Not a care in the world.
Right.
And then we have this situation, Scott, where liberal Democrats are, you know, they're reviving his image because he's against Trump.
So he must now be a good person.
And then I see Barack Obama and his first lady expressing regret over the death of Barbara Bush and how the Bush family has, have been such dedicated public servants.
What a load of freaking crap that is.
I mean, dedicated to the Bush family.
I mean, Obama is like Dick Cheney's second cousin or something.
Right.
So yeah.
Dedicated to the deep state.
I mean, George H.W. Bush, uh, was in on the founding of the CIA.
It just really is, uh, an extraordinary time we live in.
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So now back to, well, not the long road home, but the story of what really happened there that day.
It's notable to me, you and I may have talked about this before.
I'm sure I probably brought it up.
Because I remember, I don't have a source for this.
I actually have looked for it before online on YouTube and whatever, and I can't find it.
But I remember very well, Congressman Bob Dornan from California saying on whatever news channel it was that, yes, it's a heroic and wonderful and brilliant decision that the provisional authority made here in shutting down Muqtada al-Sadr's newspaper.
Because in Muqtada al-Sadr's newspaper, he's agitating against the United States.
And so, yes, you know, here in America, we believe in free speech and yes, we claim we're spreading democracy and the American way to Iraq.
But in this case, we really don't like what this newspaper is saying.
So we have to shut it down.
And the next day was when this fight broke out in Sadr City, where then Casey was sent in to try to rescue the guys who had gotten themselves pinned down and was killed.
And of course, Thomas Young, who I met at Camp Casey in 2005 and who did, you know, there's a movie about him and did all this great work, was shot in the spine.
He was one of the ones that your son was sent to rescue there.
And you know, not to get into the weeds or whatever off track, but the entire Iraq War II was fought for Muqtada al-Sadr and the United Iraqi Alliance of the Shiite dominant factions.
And America fought an eight year war, George Bush fought an eight year war to kick all the Sunnis out of Baghdad and turn at least the entire east of that country and south of that country over to basically Muqtada al-Sadr's political alliance.
So the fact that they were picking a fight with the least cooperative member of the Shiite coalition just goes to show that, you know, they really had no idea what the hell they were doing over there.
You know, they fought Sadr in, I guess, in Najaf at the same time or right around the same time.
They fought against his groups again in 2007 and 2008.
And then, but to what effect?
He's still one of the most powerful leaders among the Shia supermajority in Iraq right now.
And so, you know, we talk about the whole thing as, you know, just they shouldn't have sent the cavalry into Iraq at all, but they surely didn't need to send them into Sadr city that day.
They didn't need to shut down Muqtada al-Sadr's newspaper.
They were fighting a war for him.
Surely they could have negotiated.
Well, also, that's what you said is all true and exactly what to what now, now the US is arming and training ISIS, just make that the umbrella for, you know, the terrorist rebels there in the Middle East.
But it's also worth remembering, I think, that on April 1st, three days before Casey was killed, Blackwater mercenaries were, you know, they were killed and hung off a bridge in Fallujah.
And the Fallujans, if that's how you say that, the people in Iraq who live in Fallujah, they were tired of Blackwater's brutality in their community.
And so when they had a chance, they rebelled.
And I think part of that rebellion also spread to Sadr city by April 4th.
Right.
And, you know, of course, as Ray McGovern likes to point out, the riot in which the Blackwater guards got caught up and lynched there was in response to the Israeli drone strike or airstrike assassination of Sheikh Yassin, who they had abetted in helping to create Hamas and affect the rise of Hamas in the first place to be a right wing religious alternative to the PLO.
But they decided they didn't like him anymore.
And when they assassinated him, that was what caused the riot in Fallujah, where those Blackwater guards got lynched, which then became the justification for our current Secretary of Defense, James Mattis, and his Marines attack on Fallujah, which, as you're saying, yeah, broke out.
Isn't it crazy how all these people are coming back?
I mean, Trump, I can't believe there were some people that were pro-peace or anti-war that actually thought Trump was going to be.
And, you know, Trump probably has not been as vicious as Clinton would have been.
But still, he surrounded himself with the same people, Mattis, now John Bolton.
And was it a coincidence that soon after John Bolton came back into, you know, this freak show that the U.S. upped its bombing in Syria and has sent more ships?
And now there's so-called exercises being run by the Marine Expeditionary Force in Jordan.
So it just really is a never-ending cycle.
And- Hey, the Wall Street Journal says that, thank God, well, they don't put it this way.
I do, assuming their reporting is right, that thank God Mad Dog Mattis, the butcher of Fallujah, is there, because he's the one who convinced Donald Trump to not hit Iranian or Russian targets.
And that what we ought to do is just, like we did last year, we'll throw a few missiles at a few sites for show and we'll talk real tough, but we're not going to do anything capital S stupid here.
So thank God the cool, patient wisdom of this war criminal was there to prevail over John Bolton and Donald Trump himself.
Well, and I think this is just like the definition of wag the dog, because from what I also understand, Putin helped coordinate these attacks to help the United States save face, but not hurt Syria too badly, or Russian troops who happened to be there.
So this is all just for show.
It's just wag the dog.
And the people, we're the ones that are suffering.
If we don't have loved ones like my family that have been killed, or the over a million people in Iraq, and we don't even count the civilians.
If we don't have this kind of personal tragedy, this country is suffering.
It's really being turned into an S-hole, like what Donald Trump likes to call it.
So we really need to stop this from the bottom up.
It's not going to stop from the top down.
It's not going to stop by voting these maniacs in or out of office.
We've been voting now.
The United States has been voting for over two centuries, and here we are.
So what are we going to do to stop it?
Voting got us into this mess.
It's not going to get us out of this mess.
All right.
Well, now listen.
So I think some might mistakenly think that you've just gone away and quit being anti-war during Obama times, but I know that that is certainly not right, that you've done your best.
But now that there's a Republican in there, it seems like you at least have a good chance of trying to help to revive the anti-war liberals and progressives.
The real leftists have stayed anti-war and anti-Democrat this whole time.
But the rank and file out there, the broad American left, were bribed by Obama's personality, I guess, and his identity into shutting their mouths for eight years.
But now you are doing this new march on the Pentagon, the Women's March on the Pentagon.
So is this going to be all pussyhats and stupid stuff?
What is this?
Tell me.
Tell me something good.
I want to hear it.
I want to be excited about this.
Well, this is really in reaction to the Pussyhat Parade, I like to call them.
And for two years, the Pussyhat Parade has been doing huge demonstrations against Trump.
And of course, it's just against Trump.
It's not against the system.
And a few of us principled people on the left, and even though there have been some, there really relatively have been a precious few of us that have been principled this whole time.
But especially this year, when they started to organize or started to promote, because I don't think they ever stop organizing, getting all their millions of dollars in donations and stuff.
And I'm talking about the Women's March.
Particularly this year, when they started promoting it, without having war as the single most devastating issue to women in the world, as one of their pieces of their platform, I started to challenge them even more than I did last year, because last year, my sister died on the day of the first Pussyhat Parade.
And so I wasn't really, I was thinking of other things at that moment.
But anyway, this year, I started to challenge them even more vocally than I had before.
And one of the organizers commented to me, she said, Cindy, we know war is your issue, and we appreciate that.
But the Women's March will never address war as long as women aren't free.
And so what she learned- Yeah, we just need to make more of them military officers.
That's real equality and freedom, see?
Right, right.
Like Princess Leia, she's not a princess anymore.
Now she's a general.
That's feminism, fully realized, American style, 2017-18 era.
Yeah.
And so my response is, what you mean is until the most privileged class of women in the world, white female Democrats, are free, and you guys are already free, so it really is up to you to, it's up to us to- I'm just so embarrassed for our civilization.
I mean, there's all the guilt and all that too, but it's just embarrassing, isn't it?
I'm sorry.
It really is super embarrassing.
I just am mortified, seriously.
So we think that in the Women's March on the Pentagon, we believe that we have to be in solidarity with all women and all oppressed people and occupied people around the world.
We're an internationalist march.
We don't believe any of us are free until we are all free.
And so, and the anti-war movement really didn't come back, Scott, last year.
I was kind of shocked because I believe, and I have believed for a long time, since probably around 2006, that the anti-war movement wasn't really anti-war, they were anti-Republican war.
And so I thought, well, the one thing about having Trump come in, at least the people will start to protest his wars again, even though I knew it wouldn't be principled and I knew it would be short-lived until we get another Democrat president.
But it didn't happen.
And so there were many strong protests, but none of them had an anti-war component.
There was the environmental march in DC in May that gave the anti-war movement lip service, kind of like, here, you can have your little spur of the march over off into this alley.
And I'm not even kidding about that.
And you know, a lot of things.
Yeah, it is.
And, you know, it gives me environmentalists have to recognize that the Pentagon is the number one polluter in the world.
Right.
And so.
And they consume as much fossil fuels as like Germany, you know, they're like third in rank of nation states, if that's your concern, you know, as you said, I mean, this certainly isn't my issue, but on your blog, I saw where you said gun control begins at the Pentagon.
Hey, environmentalism does, too.
You know, well, you know, freedom and peace and justice for all and everything begins at the Pentagon.
And I'm not, you know, I am not for gun control either in the in the masses.
I, you know, I'm I believe that it's a mistake to to to disarm the people when the cops in the military are so armed.
I just really even though I don't own any guns, I think it's a real mistake.
And it's a it's a it's a terrible issue to to me.
It's a terrible issue to organize around, especially when the U.S. military, like Martin Luther King, Jr. said, is the biggest purveyor of violence in the world.
Yeah, it's just so naive.
Right.
And I remember being a kid and kind of thinking just from the way they talk about it on TV, not really thinking, but just being under the impression that.
So I guess you pass some laws and then all these guns go away and all the murders stop or something.
But I was 12 and that's stupid.
You know, that's not how the reality is at all.
Gun control laws just means people sitting in prison for simply having a gun and not even doing anything wrong to anyone with it.
What the hell is that?
That's crazy.
That's not, you know, protecting people's lives.
That's destroying them.
Well, absolutely.
And I think, you know, sorry for that tangent.
I just had to agree with you about that.
But, you know, just call me, you know, conspiracy theorist.
But I don't really believe the U.S. government has our best interests at heart.
You're so cynical.
Aren't I?
So listen now.
But so now here's the thing about the antiwar left.
Like they got to find a way to come slink slinking back.
Right.
They got to they got to come back and be able to be antiwar without being embarrassed for being silent for eight years.
But then again, apparently they're all pretty shameless.
So it shouldn't be too hard if we can get them to rally around the right thing.
A big part of the problem is, is all the partisanship, of course, with this guy being the devil incarnate and the central set of accusations against him are that he's an agent of a foreign power and that, you know, rather than being some American, you know, super patriot to a fault who bombs people every day, the problem is that he doesn't bomb people enough.
And whenever he stops doing anything horrible, all the headlines blare in a move sure to please the Russians.
You know, that was even what The Washington Post said when he called off the CIA program back in Al-Qaeda in Syria.
They go, oh, yeah, Putin's going to like that.
And so it just has twisted the whole concept.
It's not they're not attacking him.
He doesn't fit that George Bush position.
Now what's wrong with him is that he's not George Bush.
As you said earlier, they're rehabilitating Bush.
Bush was a compassionate, conservative, centrist, moderate who didn't use the N-word and wasn't, you know, just outright a jerk to everyone the way that Trump is.
So what's wrong with Trump?
He's an outsider.
And so whatever's wrong with him is wherever he breaks with the centrist consensus and the centrist consensus is kill, kill, kill all day, every day.
And new Cold War with Russia and the works.
Right, well, I remember was it last year around this time when the U.S. bombed the airstrip in Syria and all the pundits said, well, now he's acting presidential.
What the heck does that say about our country?
But I want to comment on something that you said, what they the so-called left shame or shameless Obama supporters for eight years of his scandalous wars.
Really, Scott, we're building the antiwar movement from scratch right now.
And I was in five cities back east and I basically told the people, I don't want to say that it's you people who came out to my event, but it's your fault for not protesting Obama's wars.
So what we're facing in Syria today, what we're facing with China and North Korea, Russia is really the fallout of not remaining principled antiwar activists for really since 2006.
So here we have to get back up to speed.
And if what Trump is doing is wrong, then it was wrong when Obama was president, because Obama really was Bush on steroids.
He took two words and wars and expanded them to seven and being the overachiever that he is.
And people were silent.
And we just had antiwar rallies around the country and this past weekend.
And from what I understand, they were pathetically attended.
Yeah, well, no, I saw something that I think it was a press release about your upcoming march that had a list of a lot of groups on there.
Yeah, we have you had much success in getting people to sign other groups to sign up and promise to be there.
Yes, we have really are generating a lot of positive excitement about this.
We do have a really long list of endorsers, individuals and groups.
And what we really want is not to get people's names, but to get people to mobilize.
And I was in D.C., Boston, New York, Manhattan, Long Island and Philadelphia and not Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Lancaster.
And all of these cities are already mobilizing to get buses of people to come.
I started there because I knew that they were cities where people could get buses and carpools easily to get to Washington.
And of course, Washington, D.C., they they don't have to just take the metro or whatever to get to these protests.
So we do have a lot of excitement that is being generated.
The opposition that we have, we do have some of the establishment I call I'd like to call it the peace industrial complex groups that are more Democrat controlled or funded by vote vets and stuff like that.
Move on.
Yeah, things that will move on would never be on my side.
But there are some war groups that are in opposition.
And I don't think it's so much of the women's part because we really have made it very clear that everybody is welcome.
It's just that women are going to be organizing this event.
I think it's more.
You're talking with Vets for Peace, right?
Yeah.
People are more opposed to it because we're having it before the midterm election.
And it's like a couple of weeks before the midterm election.
And I've heard people say this march will hurt the Democrats.
And I said, well, if you're afraid that a peace march is going to hurt your political party, then you need a new party if you are actually against wars.
Right.
Yeah.
We don't want to make Nancy Pelosi look bad or anything because, you know, that's exactly what they said in 2008 when they were organizing the five year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, organizing something in Washington, D.C.
Some of us wanted to have a march to oppose the wars.
And that was in 2008.
The opposition to this was you're going to embarrass the Democrats.
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Now, so here's the thing, and I don't know if this really makes sense from others' points of view, but it's kind of a hang up of mine, is I always regretted that all the big left wing marches against the war back in 2003 and in the Bush Jr.years, they always seemed so tone deaf to the idea that maybe some right wingers agreed with them, too.
And I'm not speaking for myself because I'm no kind of right winger, but you know who's a right winger is Pat Buchanan and Daniel Larrison at the American Conservative magazine and, you know, some people like that.
And it always seemed to me like and, you know, partisanship gets in the way of this.
But it seemed to me like it would be really wise if leftists could get up on the stage at their anti-war rally and say, listen, we're so right that these right wingers agree with us just because we're right.
And they can't help but admit that we're right.
And so instead of saying, oh, no, it's a horrible Donald Trumpian thing to want to stop backing CIA, have the CIA back in al-Qaeda in Syria, go ahead and and accentuate the the positive and and non-interventionist or anti-interventionist, anti-nation building, anti-global policeman, policeman of the world type aspects of conservatism and invite guests that represent those point of view, those points of view to really show by example that you don't have to be Cindy Sheehan the leftist to be anti-war.
You could be, I don't know, Ron Paul and be just as anti-war as Cindy Sheehan.
And for a lot of the same reasons, you know, all the best ones.
Right.
Well, we're calling our march a nonpartisan march on the bipartisan war machine.
And so that's a great way to put it.
Who coined that?
Yeah, this is interesting because so, you know, and I tell people, if you feel like you have to vote, if there's some kind of weird thing and you're you've been, you know, abused by the system into thinking that your vote matters and that you have to go vote.
I vote, Scott, and I've run for office before.
I just don't think that those are the most effective ways to change things, obviously.
And so I said, go vote for a Democrat, go vote for a Republican, go vote for Green, whatever you feel like you have to vote, but recognize that it's the street hate that's going to.
And, you know, if you have a class based analysis of the problem, there are Republicans, right wingers, left wingers, communists, whatever in that.
Let's just call it the ninety nine percent.
There's there's like so everybody's in the ninety nine percent and we're not going to defeat the one percent.
If we keep factionalized, we just had an antiwar event in Orinda, California, and I was I was one of the speakers, but we had Ron Paul send a video.
Do you know that there were people who refused to attend because Ron Paul had a video there and he kept his comments to being antiwar and anti empire?
And the name of our conference was Stop the War Machine, Save the Planet.
Yeah.
Well, and yeah, I don't know.
I mean, that's what is really regretful, too, is all the attacks on Ron, like he's some kind of beyond the pale, extra mean right winger are all so hollow and made up.
Well, I don't agree with that so much.
You know what I mean?
Like what do they think is going to happen?
He's already out of Congress.
You know what I mean?
Like they're going to they're them witnessing him also be right is going to do what to hurt them.
Right.
Well, I don't agree with everything, obviously.
But, you know, on this issue, we we have been really, you know, Jesse Helms was antiwar.
You would still know that he's a horrible bastard in every way.
And OK, well, it's good that he agrees with me on this.
But Ron Paul is a very decent gentleman.
You know what I mean?
Even if you disagree with him on X, Y and Z, he's still a good person.
And he and he clearly is a committed anti imperialist.
So for leftists to want to give him the cold shoulder like that is just regretful as can be.
I think it was, you know, it was really regretful.
And it was a really good, you know, it was a really good conference.
And we had we had too many speakers, I think, and not show up because you disagree with one is is pretty pathetic.
And so that's what those are the issues that we're facing.
And, hey, we can't even agree on the left about things, you know.
And so then we bring in this additional complication that we have, somebody who who might be identified on the right that just brings more complications.
Yeah, that should be a strength everyone should see.
I mean, if you really want to end the war, this is the whole thing of the ninety nine percent.
Right.
Like the first rule of the ninety nine percent is that ninety nine percent of Americans are not radical leftists.
So if if the point is that the one percent or really more accurately, the one percent of the one percent rule and all the rest of us are in the same boat, then, hey, that includes a lot of right wingers.
That includes a lot of tea partiers.
That includes a lot of people who don't feel like they're represented by either of the major parties at all.
That ninety nine percent is three hundred and something million of us, not the radical left.
Come on.
Right.
And as someone who I consider to be on the radical left, I just want I have to I have to go now pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm over time, too.
But yeah, for the Women's March on the Pentagon, we are not having little spurs.
We're not having the veterans contingent or the you know, the libertarian contingent or whatever contingent.
If you believe that the US empire is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world, if you think the Pentagon has to be stopped, then you are welcome to join us.
And I just want to tell people go to March on Pentagon dot com for more information.
And like you said, Cindy Sheehan soapbox.
Great.
That's the Cindy Sheehan soapbox dot blogspot dot com and March on the Pentagon dot com.
March on the Pentagon dot com.
March on the Pentagon dot com.
All right, great.
Thank you so much.
It's great to talk to you again, Cindy.
Appreciate it.
Oh, thank you, Scott.
Well, hopefully it's not so long until we talk again.
I'll see you there.
OK, bye bye.
Hey, I want to add on a special thanks to the heroic Ron Paul, the greatest American hero ever, in my estimation, for interviewing me on his show, The Liberty Report with the great Dan McAdams as well.
It's really great.
They interviewed me on Monday and it ran on today.
Wednesday.
I don't know what day you guys are hearing this, but ran on Wednesday.
You can find it on YouTube dot com and I'll blog it and all that.
We talked about Syria and Afghanistan and other things.
Libertarianism.
So thanks, Ron.
You're great.
