Mark Perry discusses what he calls “the biggest breakdown in civil-military relations since Vietnam”: the controversy over the war crimes trial of Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher. By refusing to allow the Navy to discipline Gallagher in the way they intended, Trump has essentially intervened in the military justice process as, Perry thinks, a move to curry favor with his base. Perry is adamant that we really do have a problem with special forces that run around the world without accountability, pretending to fight terrorism but really just terrorizing civilian populations and committing war crimes. Perry wonders whether this will finally force some of Trump’s base in the military to abandon him in the upcoming election.
Discussed on the show:
- “The Real Reason The Navy Stood Up To Trump” (The American Conservative)
- “The Crimes of SEAL Team 6” (The Intercept)
Mark Perry is the author of Talking to Terrorists: Why America Must Engage with its Enemies, The Most Dangerous Man in America: The Making of Douglas MacArthur, and The Pentagon’s Wars. Read his work at The American Conservative Magazine and follow him on Twitter @MarkPerryDC.
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