09/17/14 – Brian McGlinchey – The Scott Horton Show

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Right now, 28pages.org.
That's where you find Brian McGlinchey.
And it's 28pages.org, a new resource for the growing movement to declassify a 28-page finding about foreign involvement in 9-11.
It's time to declassify those 28 pages.
Welcome to the show, Brian.
How are you doing?
Hey, great to be with you, Scott.
Thank you.
Very happy to have you on the show here.
I appreciate you joining us today.
So remind us again about just which 28 pages we're talking about here, first of all.
Absolutely.
A lot of people think it's in the 9-11 commission report, but actually it's in an earlier report that preceded that, the report of a joint House-Senate Intelligence Committee inquiry into, you know, the title of the study, intelligence community activities before and after the September 11 attacks.
So this is the initial congressional investigation into how it was that we have an FBI, a CIA, an NSA, and yet still a September 11th attack.
Exactly, exactly.
And now, you know, I'm sure there are plenty of things to discuss about that entire report, but let's skip to what we don't get to see.
And that's the 28 pages, although it has been, I think, part of the major media story from the very beginning about just what's in there.
We have a pretty good idea about what the 28 pages are, and they kind of even said from the beginning, I know that's why we blacked it out, so you won't know the truth.
Yeah, that's right.
It's 28 pages.
And, you know, for perspective, it's important to note that this report that it's part of is 800 pages long.
And, you know, as you go through it, there are redacted sentences and paragraphs and names, places.
But then all of a sudden you come to this section where it's 28 pages from one end to the other that is completely redacted.
There is a declassified paragraph on the front end that does tell us that it relates to findings of indications of specific sources of foreign government support of the 9-11 hijackers.
So we know that.
And we also know from Senator Bob Graham, who's been very outspoken on this issue, he co-chaired the Senate part of that joint inquiry.
So he was part of the inquiry that actually wrote the 28 pages.
He's been very vocal about saying these need to be declassified.
And he's also given indications that this points to involvement by tied back to Saudi Arabia, whether it's the government, whether it's their intelligence organization, both wealthy individuals, highly placed in Saudi Arabia.
Those types of details are the things that still need to come out.
Also, you know, a lot of times when people talk about it, it talks about these plural when they talk about governments.
So as much as we've talked about Saudi Arabia, you know, there is maybe some question.
Is there another country to that also implicated?
That's what I was just going to ask you.
And I think, you know, obviously people have speculated about that.
There were warnings from I don't know how many if somebody has an exact count of how many different governments are on the record warning that there was a major attack coming.
That kind of thing.
But there's one country that stands out as somewhat suspect, at least in terms of prior knowledge and perhaps not sharing what they knew.
And that is the Israelis because of the four part series on Fox News that came out by Carl Cameron, where he basically paraphrase paraphrase the FBI as saying, how could they have not known when we look back now and see how close they were following these hijackers around?
It seems like they must have known more than they were telling us.
And apparently these FBI agents were upset and that's why they were telling Carl Cameron.
And then but of course, you know, the real facts of that have been, you know, not really developed.
I guess the real question is, do you have any indication that any of that has anything to do with these 28 pages?
I haven't seen any indication that, you know, that vast spying network, you know, your listeners want to Google later the art students and the dancing Israelis, you know, the dynamic of the of the 9-11 story potentially.
I mean, I haven't heard any direct or indirect indication from anyone of that.
Now, Justin Raimondo at Anti-War wrote a piece recently exploring, you know, what might be in this 28 pages.
And he he did pursue that as a potential angle.
And then so do you have any indication about what other government they might be talking about?
I guess there were news stories a few couple years back about some flight training that took place in Turkey.
But was anybody implying that the Turkish government was behind that in any way?
Or I know once you get past Saudi, at least not that I have.
And my my focus has been on declassifying them.
I don't have the encyclopedic knowledge.
Some people do.
Yeah, it just seems like when you say, you know, when it comes to Bob Graham, we all know he's been talking about Saudi Arabia on this subject for years.
We know that's what he means.
And I just wonder whether there's any other kind of, you know, we know that when when this other congressman references it, he's he's made himself pretty clear that he's talking about X or Y Gulf country or Pakistan or something.
You know, I don't know.
Right.
But I guess the answer to that is no.
You really don't have any further indication beyond that.
I just want to open this thing up and see what's in there.
Yeah.
Well, of course, there's, you know, the general Mahmoud connection and all that.
The money, you know, maybe Pakistan.
Exactly.
That's another name that does come up in the in that discussion.
And now, OK, so so back to the activism, then you're working really hard on getting people to contact Congress and have them do what exactly, Brian?
We want everybody to contact their congressman or congresswoman.
And first of all, ask them to support House Resolution 4 to 8.
That was introduced last December by in bipartisan fashion by Republican Congressman Walter Jones.
Who you might know recently survived a bid by the establishment and by various lobby organizations to primary him.
So he survived that has gone on.
And he along with Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts, a Democrat, they choose 4 to 8, which urges the president to declassify the 28 pages.
So we want people to contact Congress, ask them to co-sponsor H.R. 4 to 8.
We also want them to ask two questions.
Have you, congressman?
And of course, we talking to a staffer, but has the congressman read the 28 pages?
And if not, have they asked permission from their their intelligence committee to do so?
In a piece we just posted a couple of days ago at 28 pages dot org, we explore what I think is a scandalous dereliction of duty that may be underway on Capitol Hill.
Specifically, what I'm talking about is starting from last December.
You've had Walter Jones, Stephen Lynch, then joined by Thomas Massey, congressman from Kentucky, all urging their peers to read the 28 pages, not only out of justice and understanding what happened and an oversight of the intelligence community, but also because they and along with Senator Graham say, hey, what's in there is very instructive about current events and what's going on right now in the region.
And they continued support of Sunni extremism across that region.
However, the indications are that you've got all these congressmen who are not even bothering to read that.
And I'd encourage people to go to 28 pages dot org and use our search function to look for a video by Massey, M-A-S-S-I-E.
His press conference video in March, the terms he talks about were very intriguing.
He says that he described the experience of going into that soundproof room and then finally reading those 28 pages is disturbing.
And he said he caused him to rearrange his understanding of history.
Walter Jones said what he saw was shocking and that was most troubling, was he was extremely disappointed in people whom we thought we could really trust you.
Go ahead.
OK.
One would think that that would spark, if not professional curiosity, just natural curiosity to see what in the world is in those 28 pages.
But it looks like willful ignorance is going on.
Right.
All right.
Well, I'm sorry we're out of time.
I'll let you go here, but everybody can find all the contact information for Congress right there at 28 pages dot org.
Right.
Absolutely.
OK.
A lot of tools and even pre-printed, pre-written letters for them to send to Congress, too.
OK, great.
Thanks a lot, Brian.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, Scott.
Brian McGlinchey, everybody.
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