4/9/21 Jesselyn Radack on the Latest Victim of America’s Draconian Espionage Act

Scott interviews national security attorney Jesselyn Radack about her work in the protection of whistleblowers. Daniel Hale, the man who leaked the so-called “drone papers” to the Intercept in 2014, has just pleaded guilty to violations of the Espionage Act in what Radack calls yet another travesty of justice. Because the Espionage Act, of course, has nothing to do with espionage. It’s never used to go after spies—or any real threat to the well-being of the American people—but only to...

4/8/21 Trita Parsi on Biden’s Willingness to Negotiate With Iran

Trita Parsi talks about the state of negotiations between the U.S. and Iran. President Trump, of course, made a point of withdrawing from the JCPOA and increasing hostilities with Iran, deliberately parting ways with one of President Obama’s signature issues. But the Biden administration, says Parsi, seems serious about reestablishing diplomatic relationships with Iran, especially as they continue to demonstrate advanced nuclear capabilities. Contrary to the common narrative, Parsi explains,...

4/2/21 Pete Quinones Interviews Scott About Vaccine Passports and the New Domestic Terror War

Listen to a livestream Scott recorded with Pete Quinones on Friday. They discuss covid passports, the government’s response to the pandemic over the last year and the growing focus in the U.S. government on so-called “domestic terrorism.” Discussed on the show: “Blaming Tuskegee syphilis study for Black communities’ distrust in vaccines doesn’t capture everything” (CNN) “4/2/21 Larry Wilkerson on the Global Struggle for Power in Asia” (The Libertarian Institute) “4/2/21 Immortal Technique on...

4/2/21 Peter Lee on China’s Treatment of the Uyghur Muslims

Scott talks to Peter Lee about the ongoing Uyghur controversy in China. The Chinese government, he says, is trying to integrate their minority Uyghur Muslim population, as part of their larger project to urbanize and centralize China. There is growing concern, especially on the American right, that these efforts represent an outright genocide, with claims of mass forced birth control and up to a million people in detention centers. These fears, Lee says, tend to be exaggerated—though what the...

4/2/21 Lyle J. Goldstein on the American Military’s Disastrous Indo-Pacific Strategy

Lyle J. Goldstein discusses the terrifying possibility of war between the U.S. and China. There are plenty of hawks in the U.S. government, he says, who might try to fight China were they to attack Taiwan or exert their influence elsewhere in the region. But even leaving aside the potential catastrophe of a nuclear war, Goldstein says American strategists don’t give enough credence to the possibility that China could now defeat the U.S. even in a conventional war. The entire doctrine of trying...

4/2/21 Immortal Technique on Slavery, Israel-Palestine and the Politicization of American Society

Scott interviews rapper Immortal Technique in a wide-ranging conversation covering the legacy of slavery in America, the false narrative about Palestine fed to most Americans and the ways that politics has become entwined in daily life like never before. He and Scott agree that the powerful have always deliberately played up the petty differences that divide us, hoping to separate and embitter people who should be natural allies. Social change is possible when regular citizens unite against...

4/2/21 Larry Wilkerson on the Global Struggle for Power in Asia

Scott talks to Larry Wilkerson, former army Colonel and Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, about America’s involvement in Asia, both during his time in the federal government and today. Wilkerson calls America’s exploits over the last few decades a part of “The Great Game,” a reference to the conflict between global powers like the British and Russian Empires over territory in the Middle East and the rest of Asia. This competition for hegemony never really ended, he says,...

4/2/21 Grant Smith on Israeli Apartheid and the False Promise of a Two-State Solution

Grant Smith discusses the Israeli government’s occupation of Palestine and its treatment of the Palestinians. There seems to be growing recognition that Israel is presiding over a form of apartheid, including a 2017 UN report attesting to that fact, and a small plurality of Americans, according to a recent survey, who believe America should cut aid to Israel over human rights abuses. But Smith also recognizes that government policies here and abroad often follow a “ratchet” effect—that is,...

4/2/21 Jacob Sullum on the Trial of Derek Chauvin

Scott interviews Jacob Sullum about the trial of Derek Chauvin for the death of George Floyd. Sullum highlights two important features of the prosecution’s case so far: the first is that paramedics testified to Floyd’s already being dead when they showed up, and the second is an argument about Floyd’s possible drug overdose. Sullum explains that while the level of fentanyl found in Floyd’s system during the autopsy might be high for a normal person, it was actually on the extreme low end of...

3/26/21 Daniel Davis: US War With China Over Taiwan Would Be Foolish and Costly

Daniel Davis talks to Scott about the possibility of war with China. Davis fears that despite what would seem to be common sense arguments against ever fighting such a war, that’s the direction that the American military establishment is heading in. The war planners in Washington seem to think that even though the U.S. and China both have large nuclear arsenals, we could fight a conventional war without either side resorting to nukes. This is the height of foolishness, says Davis, but even if...

3/26/21 Matthew Hoh on Biden’s Afghanistan Equivocations

Matthew Hoh comes back on the show to talk about Afghanistan. President Biden said in a recent press conference that due to logistical difficulties, America is unlikely to meet the May 1 withdrawal deadline laid out in the Doha agreement signed under President Trump. Hoh points out that there shouldn’t really be logistical difficulties in getting about 3,000 American troops out of Afghanistan in a month (not to mention the many months both presidents have had already)—really, this is political...

3/26/21 Jack Matlock on America’s Unnecessarily Hostile Relationship With Russia

Jack Matlock, America’s second-to-last ambassador to the Soviet Union, talks to Scott about relations with Russia today. He stresses that the real ideological differences that once divided America and the USSR don’t stand in the way anymore, and we need not continue to have a hostile relationship with a country that for the most part means us well. In fact, given that Russia, like America, has a huge stockpile of nuclear weapons, friendly cooperation between the two countries is far more...

3/26/21 Joe Dyke on the Secret Talks that Nearly Saved Gaddafi

Scott interviews Joe Dyke about his coverage of the little-known secret talks between Norwegian diplomats and Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, which sought a peaceful end to the war there. Although Norway was a part of the group of countries that decided to begin bombing Libya, the talks remained mostly a secret, and the Norwegian negotiators even had to be evacuated right before the bombing started. According to Dyke’s reporting, Gaddafi was open to a deal that would involve his stepping down...

3/26/21 Kalmen Barkin on Israel’s Uncompromising Parliamentary Extremists

Kalmen Barkin fills Scott in on the political situation in Israel, a country that in his words is in complete political deadlock. Leading right wing figures like Prime Minister Netanyahu have had trouble forming clear ruling coalitions recently, in part because of their unwillingness to work at all with Palestinians. Barkin says that Netanyahu is also trying to find a way out of his power sharing agreement with Benny Gantz, which he agreed to in order to form a coalition in the last election....

3/26/21 Jim Bovard on the Government Cover-Up of the Waco Massacre

Scott talks to Jim Bovard about the Waco massacre, and especially the second investigation into the government’s actions, led by Senator John Danforth in 1999. After new evidence emerged that contradicted the official government story, another investigation was conducted, but Bovard says that its mission all along was really just to whitewash the government’s malfeasance. Danforth was a moderate Republican and a darling of the establishment, who had his eyes on the vice presidency in the Bush...

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