01/29/15 – Grant F. Smith – The Scott Horton Show

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All right, y'all.
Welcome back to the show.
Hey, guess what?
On the line, I got Grant F. Smith from the Institute for Research Middle East Policy and also from Amazon.com, where he wrote probably a good third of the books they sell there.
All of them about the Israel lobby and their influence in the United States, legal and illegal.
Welcome back to the show, Grant.
How are you doing, man?
Great.
Thanks for having me on, Scott.
Very happy to have you back here on the show, my friend.
And I was laughing this morning when I saw this new piece.
It may already be running on the blog at antiwar.com, and it'll be up in the news section too here.
This news release, it's a poll.
Well, you tell me.
What's the poll say?
All right.
Well, I'm glad you're not calling it a push poll again, but it's kind of a pull poll.
We did a Google consumer survey, right?
And we took a story that Antiwar and a bunch of Israeli news outlets ran with a couple years ago, which was that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was involved in the smuggling ring that was illegally importing prohibited, export prohibited items from the U.S., including 800 Krytrons, which can be used for triggering nuclear weapons.
So we put out a one-question poll through Google Consumer Research asking the following, FBI files say Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu was previously involved in illegally smuggling U.S. nuclear triggers to Israel.
And then we had a bunch of questions in order of, he should be allowed to visit the U.S., he should first be investigated by the FBI, he should not be investigated or visit the U.S., or whatever you want to say with an open results question.
And almost 55% of the American adults surveyed said, no, if he wants to come into the U.S., he really ought to be investigated for that.
So that was kind of interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
I hope this gets a lot of play.
I hope Power Rats and the Jerusalem Post are on your email list, too.
Oh, they are.
Absolutely.
You know, we put this thing out to CNN, we've given it over to a lot of regional journalists, and it is a statistically significant poll.
This isn't, you know, this isn't some weird online poll from our website.
This is actually going out through a network that is able to understand what the demographics are behind the respondents in order to get a statistically significant result.
And so it was 1,507 responses, a good mix of age categories, income categories.
And so I think it's interesting on two fronts.
Number one, there wasn't a lot of other U.S. coverage of this finding.
I mean, foreign news outlets, again, including the Israelis, were very interested in it, and they even forced the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs to issue their standard denial.
And so that was interesting.
And the other thing is just to see what Americans think when they actually have a little bit of, you know, bona fide relevant information in a polling situation.
So, you know, there were still a lot of people who came up with crazy answers or didn't want to respond, but it was a very interesting result in the sense that most people were saying, hey, you know, if this guy is coming to the U.S. and he wants to hype the Iranian nuclear threat, you know, maybe he ought to answer a few questions about his own past first.
And I think I thought it was really interesting.
Well, yeah, and it's an important couple of points you make there about how this isn't a poll of readers of the IRMEP site and what do they think.
This is a real survey by a hired out survey company that does this.
And then the second thing, like you say, is about the people's reaction.
Once that they know that there's a story here, you know, like when you talk about the media ignoring it, it would be understandable for them to ignore it if what you were saying wasn't true.
Obviously, it's something that people don't know.
So you have to kind of inform them that, hey, there's credible reason to believe that this is the case.
Do you think there should be some kind of investigation?
You got all those bases covered.
They can't criticize you and say, oh, where's he coming up with this?
Because they don't want to see your documents.
Right.
Well, you know, basically, Google is not going to put out a poll.
They're not going to risk all of their affiliations of the news websites that actually field this in their network by putting out something that is, you know, inflammatory or wrong or, you know, discriminatory.
So they vet these surveys.
But you know, you can easily find the FBI files.
You can easily find Richard Kelly Smith's statements.
You can find news clippings.
You can find the two Israeli authors who wrote about this Project Pinto as well.
So it's not like the information isn't out there.
And, you know, they looked at the survey and they ran it.
So it wasn't just, you know, you can't say that this is something that doesn't have some relevance and doesn't have some vetting.
Not that, you know, not that anyone wants to be subject to, you know, gatekeepers in any sense for getting information.
But there are some gatekeepers, whether it's, you know, anybody.
Press release, editors of anti-war, editors of Newsweek, you know, news gets vetted, polls get vetted.
So it's an interesting process.
Yeah, competing poll companies vet each other and their statistical sampling and those kinds of things too.
Friendly competition, hopefully keeps us all honest.
Now tell us, elaborate for the rest of the segment here, which is very short, 40 seconds, Netanyahu's role in this thing.
Well, Netanyahu's role was being an employee and coordinator from an Israeli front company.
He liked trading.
He worked there and he would meet with the US contact, Richard Kelly Smyth, when he went to Israel.
And they were running all of these orders through a number of different companies, including Milco and Milchan Brothers.
But Milco was in California, putting orders from the Ministry of Defense, Israeli Ministry of Defense through this network to illegally procure items that they didn't want to try to attempt to ship through Israeli diplomatic pouches.
And they were very successful in getting just about everything they needed until they were caught.
Their American counterpart had to flee overseas.
He was eventually tracked down, arrested.
And before he went to jail, he blew the whistle on the entire operation.
Right.
And I'm sorry.
Good.
It turns out we actually had a minute and 40 seconds.
So now we can also tell about your website, which is IRMEP.org for the Institute for Research Middle East Policy and Middle Eastern Policy.
And people can find all your documents on this and all the books you've written about the covert Israeli program to steal nuclear material and nuclear technology from the United States.
Thank you so much for your time on the show, Grant.
Appreciate it.
Thanks a lot, Scott.
We'll be right back.