Jeffrey Kaye, a psychologist and writer on torture, discusses the latest developments in the ACLU's lawsuit (on behalf of former Guantanamo detainees) against James Elmer Mitchell and John "Bruce" Jessen, the psychologists who designed the CIA's post-9/11 torture program.

Liza Goitein, Co-Director of the Brennan Center for Justice's Liberty and National Security Program, discusses her report on "The New Era of Secret Law" in the US, including the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel's secret interpretations of existing laws against torture and the FISA Court's secret authorization of NSA bulk collection of phone records.