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1/23/15 Jim Lobe

Jim Lobe, chief of the Washington bureau of IPS News, discusses Republican House Speaker John Boehner’s protocol-breaching invitation for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address a joint session of Congress – conveniently timed to bolster Netanyahu’s reelection chances and sabotage an Iranian nuclear deal.

1/23/15 Eric Margolis

Eric Margolis, journalist and author of American Raj, discusses Charlie Hebdo and the free speech double standard; French President Hollande’s popularity-gaining (and blowback-generating) invasions all over the Muslim world; and what comes after the death of Saudi King Abdullah.

1/22/15 Douglas Lucas

Douglas Lucas, a writer at, discusses “hacktivist” journalist Barrett Brown’s sentencing hearing, that could get him 8 1/2 years in prison for violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act among other questionable charges.


SH: Hey Douglas how are you doing?

DL: Hey I’m fine. The Government has claimed – I mean prosecutor Heath has claimed quote ‘The Government did not prosecute Mr Brown for political purposes’, the judge has stated quote, ‘What took place is not going to chill any first amendment expression by any journalist’ and this is all absolutely fucking insane. I don’t even know where to begin with this shit

SH: Whoa careful with those … if you can

DL: The obscenities?

SH: Yeah

DL: Okay

SH: Go ahead though

DL: Okay. The prosecution is convinced and has stated that Brown has been trafficking in stolen data. Heath actually said, the prosecution actually said quote, ‘You can traffic in things that have been public or available to other people’, whereas the defense has argued quote, ‘ You cannot traffic something that is in the public domain’, he didn’t traffic in any credit card information, he posted a link and so what is going on here is that the government doesn’t like people linking to information that they do not want people to know.
Brown told me he did not know what was in the file that the link led to, and sure, you know, credit card data is problematic, you know, you don’t want that widespread and everything but this is really about control over the internet and it’s ability to further our knowledge – to link us to all sorts of information.

There was a question in the court about what, the defense attorneys twist (unclear) what’s going to happen when a reporter wants to link to thousands of pages of documents – does he have to know every single word that is in there and he’s liable for them all?
And I think the government would really love that to be the outcome because you know Wikileaks and everything – mass sets of cables – the Iraq and Afghanistan war logs, and everything else. The authorities want to shut that down lest they be faced with a populist – or people not falling their propaganda any further, and becoming disenchanted with the idea of simply voting for these guys is going to bring at least a little mercy to the domination – instead of begging them to be nicer – it’s wrong.

SH: In your tweet here Douglas you say that it appears that he will be hit with the full 8.5 years

DL: Yeah it looks like it

SH: That is just because of the judge’s attitude while the prosecutor talked

DL: Yeah, yeah, yeah

SH: Do you have any thing to say about the judge’s body language while Barrett was reading his allocution there?

DL: He, I wouldn’t go as far as glaring but he looked at Barrett intently like more than concentration, it was just sort of like ‘what is this guy saying?’ and I think that the judge did say stuff about how the picture the defense is trying to paint of Project PM and journalists as being – Project PM being journalistic- the judge claimed that Brown was much more involved in trafficking stolen goods etcetera than the defense wants him to believe. So the judge is not happy with the defense or Browns take on the explanation of this matter in his allocution

SH: Oh man

DL: Regardless whatever his facial expressions were, whether they were poker or what

SH: That’s the best answer, well the worst one, but more substantive one

DL: We’re going back in really soon

SH: I understand you got to go. Thanks very much for your time Douglas,I appreciate it

DL: You’re welcome, any time

1/22/15 Kathy Kelly

Kathy Kelly, coordinator of Voices for Creative Nonviolence, discusses her impending 3-month prison sentence for carrying a loaf of bread across a line while protesting the US drone war at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri.

1/22/15 Peter Van Buren

Peter Van Buren, author of We Meant Well and a frequent TomDispatch contributor, discusses how the US military-industrial complex profits from resupplying Iraq’s army with equipment that is too expensive to maintain and of little operational utility – essentially corporate welfare for General Dynamics, producer of M1 tanks.

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01/22/15 - The Heroic Barrett Brown

His statement after being sentenced to 5 years in federal prison for journalism:

“Good news! — The U.S. government decided today that because I did such a good job investigating the cyber-industrial complex, they’re now going to send me to investigate the prison-industrial complex. For the next 35 months, I’ll be provided with free food, clothes, and housing as I seek to expose wrondgoing by Bureau of Prisons officials and staff and otherwise report on news and culture in the world’s greatest prison system. I want to thank the Department of Justice for having put so much time and energy into advocating on my behalf; rather than holding a grudge against me for the two years of work I put into in bringing attention to a DOJ-linked campaign to harass and discredit journalists like Glenn Greenwald, the agency instead labored tirelessly to ensure that I received this very prestigious assignment. — Wish me luck!”

My interviews of Brown here and here.

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